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Drazic

Drazic

Drazic

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Okay seams to be some amssive confusion going on all round so here's the low-down on the latest finds on my ram.

Just spent ages googling the net and found a OCZ tech surports post from an OCZ guy. By the way mine has the V1.1 in the corner. So what timings and volts should i do to get to 1:1. Slackest 1st being what? As you should have picked up by now and guess i have no balls, brains ideals etc etc to do with RAM so please give all pointers you can.

01-20-2006, 09:11 AM #3 RyderOCZ OCZ Support Staff

We are using TCCD and TCC5

v1.1 (Tiny in lower right hand corner of white sticker) on the PC3200 Rev 2, PC4200, and PC4800 Platinum's are TCC5

v1.0 on the same is TCCD.

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rev2v116ww.jpg

Close up of my ram
''Just thought someone would like to know as all you know that these sticks got some insane overclocking potential....''

Found on the same forum i pull the above off!

There is also the possibitly that they could be TCCD, i found that 50% of the users/owner of the reviews, forums i looked at took the gutts removed heatspready and it said TCCD yet the white sticker said v1.1. I have no idea what to do. Shame there aint a ram tester that will say as does cpuz for what chips they are
 
Okay i guess i'll giver it a go. So set it to 1:1 right away yeah?

''try 2.5-3-3-6 at stock volts. if that doesn't work, try 2.85v but don't bother trying any higher volt wise. try slacker timings instead....

to run 1:1, make sure the dram frequency is set to 400 in the bios''
 
OMG check this out

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Dude i love you, not full on but you know what i mean. It's like silly silly fast, never seen it so fast. Winodows is really dirty right now befor any of this i noticed it's taking ages to boot on the windows laoding screen so i do need a fresh instal and i'd also just done some updates and not restarted befor adjsting my memory so thye had to be done. Also

Super pi 1m seams to of gone down by 2 and a bit seconds, thus afetr doing a few things
 
leave memtest running overnight. if it passes, jobs a goodun. :)

i notice you have performance mode disabled on your cpuz screen. try enabling that in the bios also.... ;)
 
Thats in the dram frequency bit right?

Which type of mem test to use? Dos or windows and where can i get it from?
 
well there are 2 settings to change....

1) under jumper free configuration>performance mode>set to turbo
2) under chipset>performance acceleration mode>set to enabled

run memtest from a bootable cd/floppy disk for the most thorough testing. grab it here.....

http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
 
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Okay so i downlaoded the floppy one but how am i to make a disc and what exaclty do i put on it of the folder?
 
Okay disc made, so whats the reason i'm doing this? I've done a mem test in windows and it got to 6000% no errors or anyhting
 
the trouble with running memtest in windows, is that windows itself uses a fair bit of ram itself and as such is inaccessible to any testing programs. doing it this way is a lot more thorough and if it passes, you know when/if you get faults within windows, you can be pretty sure it's not your memory that is causing it.

it's like using prime to test cpu stability, you're simply eliminating possible causes of failure.

for example, if you don't stress test anything but overclock your system like you have.... you fire up a game but it crashes to the desktop after 10 minutes. what's caused that? you haven't a clue. but if you've tested the ram using memtest and the cpu using prime, you can safely rule out those and start looking at other things.... gfx card, drivers, psu etc. :)
 
Cool. Hope my Q-tech 650w psu will cope, it's only a temp solution till my PC+P arrives. My CPU is dual prime, one of P95 and SP2004 stable at 100% load. My gFX is crap, BFG 7800GS er tuesday which is gonna be a shock to have such a thing and then the experinec of the GFX. Okay i'll go start runinng me test now. I'll report back in tut moring. Thanks man for all your help. I did e-mail ya earlyer tothe addy in ya trust. Oh these slack or tight timings?

Thanks again (y)

Night
 
Umm issue. Ran mem test for over an hour. To me i t looked like it was testing both cpu memory then to go and do the ram. Anyway there where 65 error boxs coming up. Not sure thats good or bad. is there a better meme test. i hear off a friend the iso is best
 
I was refraining from posting in here (conflict of interest) but you need some help.

65 errors in 1 hour (full test?) suggests poor stability. Memtest is the best memory tester there is. You'll need to loosen up those timings to about 2.5-3-3-7 1T and if that isn't 8 hours full test stable, try 2.5-3-3-8. Keep changing the TRAS up to 11, after which you need to change the TRCD to 4, resetting the TRAS to 7. Of course you could try more volts but as an ex TCCD owner, TCCD/TCC5 does not like too many volts (2.85V max for daily use as it does get hot beyond this and the failure rate increases - then again, mine was TCCD which is about 1 year old and it may be worthwhile checking xtremesystems for more info on current batches). If yours is TCC5, it won't be as good as TCCD (my TCCD went to 275mhz 2.5-3-3-6 1T fully stable) - it's not a slouch but will require looser timings than TCCD.
 
Right well i wasn;t told anyhting about what i need to do more for memtest. In the end i stopped it and haven't bothered there after but i got FEAR out and played that and no problems even oc'd my current poxy gfx a bit. Ran perfectly. I'm selling this ram as i have my mits on a few other bits and bobs as i need to hit 262.5 mhz fsb and then i shall hold off there as i'll have a full 1GHZ OC to my CPU whoo
 
With 65 errors after 1 hour on a full loop I wouldn't have booted into windows. That's too many errors for my liking and could kill the windows install. Believe me.... small changes occur to files at first, then soon, wham, bam, reinstall time.

Drazic said:
Oh these slack or tight timings?
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The loosest timings you can feasibly buy is probably 3-4-4-8 at a given frequency. This goes to the tightest timings of 2-2-2-5 (actually 1.5-2-2-5 is the tightest but only Intel's support a CAS of 1.5). So at any given frequency, the tightest timings are the closest to 2 as you can go. There is a generally accepted range like so, 3-4-4-8 (really loose timings) < 2.5-3-3-7 (average timings) < 2-2-2-5 tight timings. When looking at timings, you have to take frequency of the RAM into account. i.e. 3-4-4-8 @ 200mhz is reeeally bad - probably the worst you can get. But say 3-4-4-8 @ 250mhz isn't so bad because the RAM is at 250mhz. TCCD is known for high FSB but only at moderate timings. The reason BH5 is so popular is because it will do high FSB with the tightest timings e.g. 250Mhz but still with 2-2-2-5 - but the reason for it being unpopular is because people don't have motherboards which can supply the 3.5V to get the best out of them. So answering your question, 2.5-3-3-6 (unstable) which you have is about moderate.
 
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Drazic said:
I'm selling this ram as i have my mits on a few other bits and bobs as i need to hit 262.5 mhz fsb and then i shall hold off there as i'll have a full 1GHZ OC to my CPU whoo
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you might not need to sell your ram just yet. i don't see why you can't reach those speeds albeit with slacker timings obviously..... :)

when it comes to real world performance, timings aren't that important anyway.
 
Well 1stly i need to get these properly tested. Okay number go right over my head, im dislexic not say i have no idea about ram what so ever.

So far i've had 13 people tell me what to do and all have been differnt so alarm bells are ringging who to go with opn there advice.

I've shaved 2.999 seconds off my super pi 1m by doing 1:1 which is good but maybe mate who is at 3.6 is doing way better than me with 245fsb...
 
This stuff is TCC5 and don't work with Intel. it's made for AMD 64 larking around nuts and all. Lucky to do what i am doing and it could be TCCD but i aitn gonna lift my heatspreaders and look for ahem sadly. I did try but on tight!!!

That ram i'm afetr is the following

***Currently, only the Asus P4C800 Deluxe and P4C800-E Deluxe are qualified for use with PC-4400 Gold Edition memory due to high FSB requirements not achievable by other boards.

If i get some at alst i'll be one up for a change.
 
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