Here we go again - Clattenburg accused of racism

Shame Chelsea didn't get as offended by their own Captain. I imagine this is payback.

THIS !!!!!!

all chelsea are doing is trying to move the spotlight of Terry and the fact that even after having accepted that he did use 'racist language' they have left him as the club captain.

This is simple smoke and mirror crap from chelsea. If they were that offended by the use of racist language on the field of play Terry would have been given his marching orders. So as far as I am concerned chelsea and their uncle Toms can kiss my entire ass
 
It seems acceptable to verbally abuse people unless it's something to do with their skin colour/nationality/religion. It wouldn't shock me if the ref did say something but I can't help but feel some of these racist incidents are provoked.
 
As it should be. Even if Clattenburg did call him a Spanish so and so, so what? Last week Conrad Black called Jeremy Paxman a "priggish, gullible, British fool" and there was literally no media headlines about 'racism'.

It's funny how xenophobia is perfectly fine but racism isn't
 
Chelsea Football Club said:
Chelsea Football Club today lodged a formal complaint with The Football Association regarding inappropriate language directed at John Mikel Obi by referee Mark Clattenburg. This is a result of a thorough investigation carried out by the club, and led by outside legal counsel, of all information available to us including interviews with a number of players and staff.

Following Sunday's Premier League game against Manchester United, club board members were quickly made aware, upon entering the home dressing room after the final whistle, that there were allegations of inappropriate language directed at Chelsea FC players by Mr Clattenburg during the game.

Board members began establishing the details of the allegations, speaking to all relevant players and staff. After those initial interviews it was clear that the matter had to be reported. The correct protocol for doing so was to report the incidents to the match delegate, and the club took immediate steps to inform him as soon as he was available. It was not a decision the club took lightly.

Since reporting the matter to the delegate, the club and outside legal counsel have conducted further investigations. Having completed that process we have now followed the correct protocol and lodged a formal complaint with The FA regarding John Mikel Obi. There was not sufficient evidence to support a second claim to The FA with regard to the alleged verbal abuse of another first team player.

We will cooperate fully with The FA and the Police as they each investigate the matter. As events on Sunday are now subject to those investigations we are unable to comment further until those processes are complete.

This is a claim over inappropriate language used throughout the match.

It is interesting that there was little reaction throughout the game from Chelsea players or staff?

Hopefully, with the aid of referees having an open mic with their officials that they can clear this case up quickly.

What do Chelsea want the out come to be by the way? It will be interesting if they (Chelsea as a club) push for the referee to be sacked, given the way the club dealt internally with the Terry situation.
 
I'd imagine they want to show support to their player (Mikel) and stamp down on use of inappropriate language, perhaps in part as a follow-up to the JT affair. Usual ***-for-tat scenario, if you get pulled up on something then you naturally look for examples of other people doing it.
 
The ref would have to be the dumbest person in the world to use racist language in the current atmosphere with the recent happenings. This along with the fact that he was mic'ed up makes me think it's highly improbable that Chelsea's accusations are true.
 
all chelsea are doing is trying to move the spotlight of Terry and the fact that even after having accepted that he did use 'racist language' they have left him as the club captain.

This

This is simple smoke and mirror crap from chelsea.

And This!!

If they were that offended by the use of racist language on the field of play Terry would have been given his marching orders.

SO MUCH THIS

I love you.

Seriously this whole incident is such rubbish, Chelsea are just making themselves look like bitter fools
 
They really aren't, if anything they are highlighting that anyone can make a claim and pretty much in every single match you could find just about every single player, referee, linesman and fan guilty of using abusive language.

If at some point everyone accuses everyone, someone will start saying either, just let it be, or bad language won't be tolerated full stop, it can ONLY be one or the other. Picking people up for one word and not another, when both are being used in an intentionally abusive mannor is simply not on.

The fact that some people think Terry should have been fired for Chelsea to make a complaint is ridiculous. By the same logic no team could ever ask for another player to get a red card for a bad tackle, if someone on their team had received a red for a bad tackle previously...... which is obviously completely stupid. As is the reasoning that Chelsea can never complain, and should fire Terry, because they've also made a complaint.

The ONLY way that logic would stand up is if Chelsea asked for treatment that was not what Terry received. Terry got a ban, a fine and a club fine afaik, have they asked that Clattenburg be fired? If not then they haven't actually suggested that a bit of a abuse is worthy of being fired, then how can you suggest that they should have fired Terry.

It sounds good, if you WANT to say something bad just because its Chelsea/Terry, but if you think about it for like, 3 seconds, you realise its completely ridiculous what you're suggesting.

If they were asking for Clattenburg or whoever else to be fired for the same behaviour Terry wasn't fired for, they'd be hypocrites, they haven't done this though. They've actually only said, well if people are going to highlight abuse, then we aren't going to be the only ones found guilty. If Terry, their captain can be banned for onfield abusive language, then Chelsea will point out everyone who uses bad language against them, its actually both fairly pointed, and should result in either people stopping being cry babys as people realise that everyone chats **** all game and everyone could have a complaint against the basically every single game they've ever played, or they'll actually enforce no swearing rules throughout every game, either situation is good frankly.

Chelsea are merely playing the game they were dealt, if people can target their players and get them bans, for things just about every player does, then they can do it too.

Terry used vile language to Ferdinand, Ferdinand used vile language to Terry, neither are racist, both are just ****'s.
 
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There are some reports indicating that its Luiz and Ramirez who heard the racist language about Mikel on Sunday.

Early reports on Sunday indicated that Mikel was heavily involved after the game in the match delegates room in a shouting match with Clattenburg. If Mikel didnt hear the offensive language himself he shouldnt even have been there in the first place.

If it is just Luiz and Ramirez mishearing MC in the heat of the moment (both players who admit to not speaking English that well, and with the Goardie accent of the delegate in question) might well be understandable mistakes

Even with the noise of the crowd, Im surprised other Chelsea players (because I can understand why Utd players would not have been questioned yet) didnt hear the exchange.

Its going to turn into something of nothing (ie mis-heard /mis-understood the accent) - but CFC shouldnt have let it get this far.
 
They really aren't, if anything they are highlighting that anyone can make a claim and pretty much in every single match you could find just about every single player, referee, linesman and fan guilty of using abusive language.

If at some point everyone accuses everyone, someone will start saying either, just let it be, or bad language won't be tolerated full stop, it can ONLY be one or the other. Picking people up for one word and not another, when both are being used in an intentionally abusive mannor is simply not on.

The fact that some people think Terry should have been fired for Chelsea to make a complaint is ridiculous. By the same logic no team could ever ask for another player to get a red card for a bad tackle, if someone on their team had received a red for a bad tackle previously...... which is obviously completely stupid. As is the reasoning that Chelsea can never complain, and should fire Terry, because they've also made a complaint.

The ONLY way that logic would stand up is if Chelsea asked for treatment that was not what Terry received. Terry got a ban, a fine and a club fine afaik, have they asked that Clattenburg be fired? If not then they haven't actually suggested that a bit of a abuse is worthy of being fired, then how can you suggest that they should have fired Terry.

It sounds good, if you WANT to say something bad just because its Chelsea/Terry, but if you think about it for like, 3 seconds, you realise its completely ridiculous what you're suggesting.

If they were asking for Clattenburg or whoever else to be fired for the same behaviour Terry wasn't fired for, they'd be hypocrites, they haven't done this though. They've actually only said, well if people are going to highlight abuse, then we aren't going to be the only ones found guilty. If Terry, their captain can be banned for onfield abusive language, then Chelsea will point out everyone who uses bad language against them, its actually both fairly pointed, and should result in either people stopping being cry babys as people realise that everyone chats **** all game and everyone could have a complaint against the basically every single game they've ever played, or they'll actually enforce no swearing rules throughout every game, either situation is good frankly.

Chelsea are merely playing the game they were dealt, if people can target their players and get them bans, for things just about every player does, then they can do it too.

Terry used vile language to Ferdinand, Ferdinand used vile language to Terry, neither are racist, both are just ****'s.

I don't agree. I am not saying Chelsea can't complain, but I am saying they are coming out of this badly, simply because of the lightness with how they dealt with Terry.

Terry admited to using racist language on the field (thats not an accusation of him being racist), Chelsea freely accepted and admitted Terry's guilt of using said language, and then procedd to allow him to remain at the helm of the club as its captain.

Can you not see how bad a message that is sending. The FA with their inconsistent punishments don't help either. Suarez getrs 8 matches, Terry gets 4 ? how does that make any sense. If anything Terry's offence was worse because you could see what he said as clear as day on live Television, it was in English and exceedinly easy to see exactly what he said.

So for a club to accept all of this and then allow that same plauer to remain the captain reeks of hipocracy when they then start puting in complaints about referees and trying to take the moral high ground on 'racist' / 'inapropriate' language use on field when they have clearly been shown to not really be that bothered by not showing a zero tolerance policy against offenders in their own house.

If you called someone a ****ing Black **** at your place of work, would you still expect to have a job there ? moreover if you were in a position of authority or leadership in your workplace such as a manager would you still expect to retain that position after using the above language directed at someone ?

if the answer is no, then why is it so different for Terry ? Playing football is his job at the end of the day, the football field is his office, he used the language and he stills retains his 'managerial role' as if nothing happened.

Thats why people are ****ed off.......
 
Chelsea are really having a tough time with racism at the minute.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ture-during-clash-with-Manchester-United.html

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The ref would have to be the dumbest person in the world to use racist language in the current atmosphere with the recent happenings. This along with the fact that he was mic'ed up makes me think it's highly improbable that Chelsea's accusations are true.

This pretty much, it would be suicidal for the ref to make such comments when hes mic'd up during the game.

Plus he has the support of the match officials at the game, i would imagine those would be the people who were also mic'd up?? ie linesmen and 4th official??.

What makes it even more hilarious is that Chelsea have decided to drop the Mata allegation and go ahead with the Mikel allegation. Why?? surely if Clattenburg said something derogatory to Mata then they should pursue that. So im sat here thinking Chelsea you are so so ****ed its not even funny anymore.

The other thing that makes me wonder about the whole validity of this charge is that, Mikel didnt look all that bothered if Clattenburg said what he said?? Personally if that was me, i would have made a huge fuss there and then but he didnt seem to be all that bothered:confused:

I sincerely hope that if these allegations are untrue then some sort of punishment will be dished out to Chelsea, they cant be going round making baseless allegations against someone who was trying to do his job.

BUT and its a big but if Clattenburg is found to be guilty then he should never referee another game for life.

Finding it very hard to be sympathetic towards Chelsea, not only do they have a racist as a captain which in itself is hilarious because in any other job...that person would have been sacked there and then. But also the fact that they are seemingly taking the spotlight off Terry and now on a witchhunt for Clattenburg.
 
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BUT and its a big but if Clattenburg is found to be guilty then he should never referee another game for life.

Negatory

he should get fined 2 weeks wages and suspended from ref duties for 4 games. What is good for the goose is good for the gander right ?????
 
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