High Octane Unleaded?

ubersonic · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:58

johnny6 said:
Genuine question why is there no standard term for 99 octane fuel or is there?

95 octane = Premium
97 octane = Super
99 octane = whatever the company wants to call it????

Shell call it V-Power, BP call theirs Ultimate 102, nobody else sells 99 Ron or higher in the UK do they? (Tesco don't count)

johnny6 · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:58

Simon said:
"I've just put Normal unleaded in my car"

If I said premium unleaded people would look at me very funny.

In that case wouldn't you just say unleaded, no need for the word normal if people accept the term 'super' unleaded.

ubersonic · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:00

If you guys think our system is anything like confusing check out a US pump: (they use PON not RON but I was aiming at the choices)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Gas_Station_Pump_Five_Octane_Ratings.jpg

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:17

johnny6 said:
In that case wouldn't you just say unleaded, no need for the word normal if people accept the term 'super' unleaded.

No, because super unleaded is still 'unleaded'.

Just like a pink tree is still a tree.

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:18

EN228 needs to be 95 RON minimum, anything sold in the EU under 95 ron wont meet EN228 and in theory isnt approved for use in vehicles by most OEMs.

Where sells less than 95RON in Europe anyway? I don't know of anywhere.

PMKeates · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:22

Simon said:
Where sells less than 95RON in Europe anyway? I don't know of anywhere.

Russia.

Here's Dimitriov Korbodoskovaninovich filling up with some 92:

stoofa · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:28

ubersonic said:
Shell call it V-Power, BP call theirs Ultimate 102, nobody else sells 99 Ron or higher in the UK do they? (Tesco don't count)

What do you mean by "Tesco don't count"??

Janesy B · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:30

PMKeates said:
Russia.

Here's Dimitriov Korbodoskovaninovich filling up with some 91:

Looks like 92 written on the pump

PMKeates · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:32

Janesy B said:
Looks like 92 written on the pump

Lol I just looked at the image again, before this post, and noticed that

Tbh if it's "92" in Russia it's probably 29.

[TW]Fox · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:37

Simon said:
EN228 needs to be 95 RON minimum, anything sold in the EU under 95 ron wont meet EN228 and in theory isnt approved for use in vehicles by most OEMs.

Where sells less than 95RON in Europe anyway? I don't know of anywhere.

Pretty sure some parts of Germany do? Would imagine some eastern countries do as well.

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:44

None will be EN228 though.

Peter Diffey · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:45

Simon said:
Where sells less than 95RON in Europe anyway? I don't know of anywhere.

Germany do.

I put at least 3 tank fulls in of 91RON in my Clio until I realised, It had no effect on the car though

[TW]Fox · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:46

Simon said:
None will be EN228 though.

Well no, of course not

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:04

I have just got a copy of EN228:2008 which supersedes EN228:2004.

One of the key changes is :

'Premium unleaded petrol' becomes 'unleaded petrol'.

I guess most forecourts now just say Unleaded too - not that I have actually looked.

PMKeates · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:10

LOL monster thread turnaround!

ubersonic · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:20

stoofa said:
What do you mean by "Tesco don't count"??

Well basically a lot of Jap car users that require high octane dislike Tescos because Tesco super is for want of a better word "fake", its not higher quality they just put an octane booster called ethanol (5% which is the most they are allowed to add by law) in it to increase its octane rating, Shell V-Power doesn't contain ethanol and I *think* BP Ultimate 102 is the same however what Tescos have basically done is take their premium unleaded and boost its rating with an additive which means it wont cause knocking on a car that needs 99, but as the is less actual petrol than in V-Power the MPG will be lower in comparison.

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:22

PMKeates said:
LOL monster thread turnaround!

It's almost like they knew this thread would appear so changed the EN228 Spec

L0rdMike · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:22

Last time I checked BP 102 was over £2 a L.

[TW]Fox · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:33

Simon said:
It's almost like they knew this thread would appear so changed the EN228 Spec

What about BS228 though as that's what was quoted?

Simon · 28 Sep 2010 at 14:35

[TW]Fox;17467428 said:
What about BS228 though as that's what was quoted?

Standard No BS228:1994

Title of Standard Specification for short-pitch transmission precision roller chains and chain wheels