High Temps using scythe ninja plus

Ka0ticMind · 14 Mar 2006 at 20:51

Greetings...i've just built my new system ...and i've noticed the cpu is running at a higher temperature than i was expecting especially as i'm using a scythe ninja plus with the 120 fan it came with and arctic silver 5 ...using asus probe 2 it's reporting 58 / 59 c whilst running prime, in the bios maybe a few degrees higher ...not sure if it's the motherboard reporting the temps wrong or if it is not fitted correctly.
specs:

Motherboard Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe flashed to 3.11 bios
Amd opteron 170 dual core running at 2.7ghz - vcore at 1.4
over volting on the motherboard disabled
Akasa acrylic uv case with 5 fans

Any advice would be appreciated ...as those temps are a little high for my liking.

Thanks in advance.

quadboi · 14 Mar 2006 at 20:58

I personally think they are WAY to high.

I would look at re-siting the heatsink

Ka0ticMind · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:30

Hi...thanks for the reply, thats what i was thinking...especially all the good reviews the ninja gets...was expecting 45 at full load...not the temps i'm seeing.
Will have to take the case apart again to re fit it

think i may sell it on as it's a little on the big side for this case and go for the zalman 9500 aeroflower ..whilst it's on special offer.

quadboi · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:34

Well, what about my cooler

Arctic cooling 64 freezer

Well, i have a Amd 3000+ venice core, and it is at 2.3ghz on STOCK voltage!!

Guess what the temp is :

36 degrees In prime 95!

Therefore, this is a wicked heatsink, and I have sufficiant cooling now

Ka0ticMind · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:38

sjohal2006 said:
Well, what about my cooler

Arctic cooling 64 freezer

Well, i have a Amd 3000+ venice core, and it is at 2.3ghz on STOCK voltage!!

Guess what the temp is :

36 degrees In prime 95!

Therefore, this is a wicked heatsink, and I have sufficiant cooling now

Wow....thats great temps you are getting, is that the pro version?

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:40

that's really quite high BUT, i have nothing to gauge it against except my own opteron 148 @ 2980mhz. I'm getting 48c load with a single core at 3ghz with a ninja (which itself is exceptional). I could easily imagine a dual core 2.7ghz cpu running 10c hotter than mine with the same sink.

quadboi · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:42

Yes its the pro version

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 21:43

Oh and the ninja is definately better than a freezer 64

mattup · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:25

Don't look at other posts that say how good a cpu cooler is on a single core cpu. There is no similarity.

Your opti puts out far more heat when overclocked.

Still you temps are carp!

Re seat the cooler with a small amount of AS5 in the middle of your cpu and let the cooler spread the TIM.

Matt

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:28

well how much is "far more than"? is 10c far more? or is it less?

mattup · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:35

James, having had an over clocked 3700Sd and upgraded to an opti 170 running @ 2.8 I am only stating what I have experienced.

My Sd fully loaded, topped out at 30C. Using the same cooler my opti topped at 51C. In my mind that’s much more heat. Would you disagree?

Having installed an Si120 on my Opti my temps have reduced to 43C both cores loaded.

Need I say more?

Matt

sablabra · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:37

james.miller said:
that's really quite high BUT, i have nothing to gauge it against except my own opteron 148 @ 2980mhz. I'm getting 48c load with a single core at 3ghz with a ninja (which itself is exceptional). I could easily imagine a dual core 2.7ghz cpu running 10c hotter than mine with the same sink.

My x2 [email protected] at 1.4V(but my mobo overvolts...) and I reach 50-51c during full load at both cores. That is with a 18db 120mm fan, so it's quiet

. What's your Vcore at?

Squidge · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:37

Well, I get about 46c at full load (eg. both cores priming) on a Freezer 64 with all fans on low (Opty 170). I'd expect a good deal less with a Scythe.

My 170 runs at 2.65Ghz @ 1.525V for comparison. Idle temp is 33c.

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:39

mattup said:
James, having had an over clocked 3700Sd and upgraded to an opti 170 running @ 2.8 I am only stating what I have experienced.

My Sd fully loaded, topped out at 30C. Using the same cooler my opti topped at 51C. In my mind that’s much more heat. Would you disagree?

Having installed an Si120 on my Opti my temps have reduced to 43C both cores loaded.

Need I say more?

Matt

well read over what ive said before in this thread then

that's really quite high BUT, i have nothing to gauge it against except my own opteron 148 @ 2980mhz. I'm getting 48c load with a single core at 3ghz with a ninja (which itself is exceptional). I could easily imagine a dual core 2.7ghz cpu running 10c hotter than mine with the same sink.

48c load on a single core at 3ghz with the same ninja heatsink. need I say more?

mattup · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:41

james.miller said:
well read over what ive said before in this thread then

48c load on a single core at 3hgz withthe same ninja heatsink. need I say more?

What experiance do you have of dual core?

Only passing on my experience. Don't slate it. I didn't knock your post!

Have you been on the beer?

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:44

you really dont get it do you.

your the one who said its much higher with the dual core. im the one who said his temps seem right to me, concidering im running 48c with the same sink on a single core.

with me so far?

ok, so what exactly are you arguing with?

Don't look at other posts that say how good a cpu cooler is on a single core cpu. There is no similarity.

Your opti puts out far more heat when overclocked.

Still you temps are carp!

So what are you saying? its gonna be 'far higher' than my single core, or are his temps too high and 'crap'? because his temps are only 10c higher than mine. you follow? that's why i aksed you what exactly do you concider 'much higher', becuase even 10c isnt much higher is it?

sablabra said:
My x2 [email protected] at 1.4V(but my mobo overvolts...) and I reach 50-51c during full load at both cores. That is with a 18db 120mm fan, so it's quiet . What's your Vcore at?

1.55v, 2980mhz

mattup · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:53

james.miller said:
you really dont get it do you.

your the one who said its much higher with the dual core. im the one who said his temps seem right to me, concidering im running 48c with the same sink on a single core.

with me so far?

ok, so what exactly are you arguing with?

So what are you saying? its gonna be 'far higher' than my single core, or are his temps too high and 'crap'? because his temps are only 10c higher than mine. you follow?

This is what I said all along,

Don't look at other posts that say how good a cpu cooler is on a single core cpu. There is no similarity.

Your opti puts out far more heat when overclocked.

Still you temps are carp!

Re seat the cooler with a small amount of AS5 in the middle of your cpu and let the cooler spread the TIM.

Matt

James, butt-out you are not helping........

The man has an overclocked Opteron 170 the same as mine, his temps are high, even with the same cooler as yours! He is concerned as I would be with his temps. Others have posted temps with other coolers on single core CPUs.

All I am saying is don't compare his temps with other peoples coolers on other cpus, because his cpu puts out far more heat than a single core cpu.

What part of that do I not get???

Matt

Ka0ticMind · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:56

Hi.....well having just read a few reviews of the ninja....i would definitely say the temps are much higher than they should be...as i've got the vcore at 1.4 ,tho this motherboard does seem to overvolt ...but even so still shouldn't be as high, as i now will have to take the case apart to refit...going to buy either a arctic freezer 64 pro or zalman aeroflower 9500 as the ninja is a little on the large side .

james.miller · 14 Mar 2006 at 22:57

mattup said:
James, butt-out you are not helping........

The man has an overclocked Opteron 170 the same as mine, his temps are high, even with the same cooler as yours! He is concerned as I would be with his temps. Others have posted temps with other coolers on single core CPUs.

All I am saying is don't compare his temps with other peoples coolers on other cpus, because his cpu puts out far more heat that a single core cpu.

What part of that do I not get???

Matt

mattup said:
James, having had an over clocked 3700Sd and upgraded to an opti 170 running @ 2.8 I am only stating what I have experienced.

My Sd fully loaded, topped out at 30C. Using the same cooler my opti topped at 51C. In my mind that’s much more heat. Would you disagree?

Having installed an Si120 on my Opti my temps have reduced to 43C both cores loaded.

Need I say more?

Matt

your using that exact comparison to back up your own argument, and im still trying to figure out what it is your arguing with. Your contradicting yourself, that's the problem. Yes his temps are high, i never said otherwise, but they are not absurdly high for a heastink with 120mm fan running at 1200rpm are they?

mattup · 14 Mar 2006 at 23:01

I have also had a Zalman 9500. Make sure the contact area is 100% flat prior to installation in your rig. There have been coolers that have warped contact areas causing high temps. I have had one!

The Zalman is a good cooler forget the Artic.

Appols for all the banter. I hope some of the info was helpful!

Try and reseat the Ninja its a good cooler.

Matt