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holy **** - AMD hury up! (KB prices)

Z270 motherboards are stupidly priced too. £110 gets you a very solid Z170 board, yet it doesn't even pay for a Z270 board.
 
new products in a time of high prices and pc components.do you think amd prices will be different ? i dont.

look across the board.many items are dearer.
 
**** prices and same old crap from Intel, but remember they are 17% more expensive thanks to brexit.

AMD save us from this teduim.
 
We need amd but do not forget they need to make money too I think the ryzen 8 core will be 700 ish at launch with lower tier cpus to follow at half decent prices
 
Intel's current pricing scheme is bonkers. The Pentiums make the rest of the lineup look stupidly overpriced, especially the i3s.

Once Ryzen launches I expect the Pentiums will stay about the same price and the rest of the Kaby lineup will have to drop.
 
If these were up for grabs at 2008 exchange rates then you would likely have a wet patch on the front of your trousers.

It's ok for people to say they paid less years ago, what they don't realise is that back then the pound was worth an extra 40 cents.
 
Part of the i3 perception is the introduction of the K which is at a higher dollar price anyway.
That's confounded by the terrible exchange rate.
 
I can't wait for some competition from AMD, but please remember:

1. VAT is at 20% now, compared to 15% and 17.5% is was previously
2. the £ has fallen significantly in value against the $ quite recently
3. inflation averaged nearly 3 each year from 2010 to 2015

Therefore like-for-like things such as processors, motherboards, and GPUs are likely to be more expensive now than they've ever been. This might be due to a little bit of added margin, but some of it is down to an economic situation rather than a scam by PC component manufacturers.
 
I can't wait for some competition from AMD, but please remember:

1. VAT is at 20% now, compared to 15% and 17.5% is was previously
2. the £ has fallen significantly in value against the $ quite recently
3. inflation averaged nearly 3 each year from 2010 to 2015

Therefore like-for-like things such as processors, motherboards, and GPUs are likely to be more expensive now than they've ever been. This might be due to a little bit of added margin, but some of it is down to an economic situation rather than a scam by PC component manufacturers.

Indeed.
I'm less concerned on the price (considering I've had X58 and X79 setups). I'm more concerned that we don't have anything on Ryzen yet, I'm getting impatient.
 
It's ok for people to say they paid less years ago, what they don't realise is that back then the pound was worth an extra 40 cents.
The pound being worth 33% more back then doesn't explain this CPU costing 233% what it's predecessor did...


I paid less than that for a 3930k a couple of years ago.
In fairness I paid more for a Pentium 166 ;)
 
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One thing I didn't realise is that since 22-28 nm ish, further shrinkage hasn't brought further cost savings for manufacturing. It's kind of been flatlining since then, at least until the processes are refined. I can't see it getting much better with 10, 7, 5 nm etc.

We've hit a bit of an economic limit as well as a thermal and clock speed limits.

So all we've got to look forward to for a while (with silicon based CPUs) is improved IPC and power efficiency for the money unless there are major architectural changes. Intel clearly have some headroom for higher clocks. I think it's going to be like the P4 days for a while where they just release CPUs with a clock speed bump and maybe extra cache and cores to remain competitive with, or ahead of AMD.

A potential change on the horizon is x86 compatible ARM chips. They're only forecast for portable devices at the moment but would be interesting to see another option in desktop space eventially. I'm not expecting much of a performance boost but you never know.
 
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