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I'm quite interested in getting a few of the new Ikea matter devices but at present don't have any thread devices at all, so was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of a suitable dongle etc? I was looking at possibly the Zigbee 3.0 & Thread Dongle Lite (Here)
Can't recommend this high enough.
 
Can't recommend this high enough.
Currently a big discount on that for new customers to the store in AliExpress it seems

(Make sure to select the right model)

 
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You said you need to power cycle to get them back online. Did your router lose power and lose connection that way or was it just the ISP side that the router lost connection to? Because if it was the ISP side, no action should be necessary as you described, as the only thing that needs updating would have been the router/ont (which would do so on their own in most cases). But if it's a power outage, depending on which devices power back up first (and if some devices were not impacted because they were battery backed but not the router), then it can get messy (since everything else will power on and check for connection and fail and not attempt again for security reasons) before the router even has booted up and performed all checks.

I should have been clearer -

- Everything runs off a UPS including the Hive Hub
- ONLY the Hive Hub is affected and needs to be power cycled after an ISP outage

I guess I'm the only one seeing this behaviour ?
 
Currently a big discount on that for new customers to the store in AliExpress it seems

(Make sure to select the right model)

A while ago I remember reading about these and there seemed to be an opinion that the 06M was better for ZHA while the regular 06 was better for Z2M. I didn't read much into it but was that around compatibility and is that still the case? The AliExpress deal honestly feels very decent!
 
A while ago I remember reading about these and there seemed to be an opinion that the 06M was better for ZHA while the regular 06 was better for Z2M. I didn't read much into it but was that around compatibility and is that still the case? The AliExpress deal honestly feels very decent!
Because the M has a Silicone Labs chip set. 06MG24 is superior it has a higher max device of that matters to you.
 
Interesting! this might kick me into finally migrating from ZHA to Z2M which I've been wanting to do for a while but just needed a second Zigbee coordinator to start it off so I can do it in my leisure! My old Conbee II has served me well but is quite old tech compared. Wouldn't say no to matter support either.

BTW, for anyone interested, found an interesting article about the various versions here: https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/smlight-slzb-06-zigbee-poe-coordinator-review/
 
I should have been clearer -

- Everything runs off a UPS including the Hive Hub
- ONLY the Hive Hub is affected and needs to be power cycled after an ISP outage

I guess I'm the only one seeing this behaviour ?

@Meddling-Monk

Got a little bit more information around what the Hive Hub is doing, it uses cloudflare DNS and creates a persistent keepalive connection to an AWS ec2 instance

Code:
13:37:01.907865 IP 10.0.1.135.49434 > one.one.one.one.853: Flags [F.], seq 568, ack 5600, win 1002, options [nop,nop,TS val 1568534837 ecr 2059579478], length 0
13:37:01.913965 IP 10.0.1.135.49434 > one.one.one.one.853: Flags [.], ack 5601, win 1002, options [nop,nop,TS val 1568534843 ecr 2059579489], length 0
13:37:59.731580 IP 10.0.1.135.44146 > ec2-52-212-2-15.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com.443: Flags [P.], seq 68544:68575, ack 4906, win 1002, options [nop,nop,TS val 270056368 ecr 2650370734], length 31

root@r3:~# cat /proc/net/nf_conntrack | grep 10.0.1.135
ipv4     2 tcp      6 7404 ESTABLISHED src=10.0.1.135 dst=52.212.2.15 sport=44146 dport=443 packets=19981 bytes=20793264 src=52.212.2.15 dst=myfkingip sport=443 dport=44146 packets=11882 bytes=2016775 [ASSURED] mark=0 zone=0 use=2

curl -Ik https://ec2-52-212-2-15.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/
HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
content-type: application/json
content-length: 72
date: Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:42:14 GMT
x-amzn-RequestId: 4128ea25-0225-e599-7988-f74e22135294
connection: keep-alive
x-amzn-ErrorType: ResourceNotFoundException:
 
Is there a USB one, I don't currently have POE in my setup?
Can't recommend this high enough.

I've had a quick look at this, seems good, how do es one set it up to be able to add matter devices? From what I've read you have to change its mode in the software, then it'll change it's firmware to be a thread router? Does it then function much the same as my zigbee dongle does, so I can just add Matter devices from within HA?
 
Is there a USB one, I don't currently have POE in my setup?


I've had a quick look at this, seems good, how do es one set it up to be able to add matter devices? From what I've read you have to change its mode in the software, then it'll change its firmware to be a thread router? Does it then function much the same as my zigbee dongle does, so I can just add Matter devices from within HA?
IIRC they can only do one at a time.

The open home project just released a new USB adapter that can do zigbee or thread but not both at the same time.

 
IIRC they can only do one at a time.

The open home project just released a new USB adapter that can do zigbee or thread but not both at the same time.


Yeah that certainly seems to be the case, and HA apparently have dropped official support for dongles doing both. I just want a dongle for Thread as my existing ZigBee dongle is working fine, this thread one would be in addition to it.
 
To the best of my knowledge, the SMLight MR series run both Zigbee and Matter over Thread at the same time. They seem to be pretty much two dongles in one case.

If you’ve got an Apple HomePod lying around then you can use that as a Thread Border Router. Install the Matter and Thread integrations on HA and away you go
 
Is there a USB one, I don't currently have POE in my setup?


I've had a quick look at this, seems good, how do es one set it up to be able to add matter devices? From what I've read you have to change its mode in the software, then it'll change it's firmware to be a thread router? Does it then function much the same as my zigbee dongle does, so I can just add Matter devices from within HA?
"Connect via Ethernet, Wi-Fi, or USB. Switch modes instantly via button or firmware."

You just login to it's webpage and reflash it.
 
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"Connect via Ethernet, Wi-Fi, or USB. Switch modes instantly via button or firmware."

You just login to it's webpage and reflash it.
Can confirm that mine lists all 3 options as toggle switches in the web portal. On the matter front, I haven't set mine up yet (I've got a second one in a drawer somewhere in case I wanted to leave my zigbee alone now that I've got it bullet proof) but there is a toggle in the web portal for the matter side and then you can integrate with it from HA via the OpenThread border router add on.
 
anyone using the HA Voice Preview Edition yet?

i ordered a couple to have a play with, cant wait :D pretty powerful with LLM

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anyone using the HA Voice Preview Edition yet?

i ordered a couple to have a play with, cant wait :D pretty powerful with LLM

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I've got one sat on my desk! Haven't had enough time to play with it but out of the box, its fairly...sparse! I think you've got to jump through the hoops of hooking it up to a local LLM etc. to get any real use out of it (heavy emphasis on the preview!) I'd love to be able to replace the nest speakers dotted around but certainly not going to meet the ease of use needed for general acceptance in the house!
 
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