Home CCTV

[digisatman]

I had mine professionally installed. It isn't a wireless jobbie, but we have a series of high quality infa red cameras with sound which go into a recording box which can be viewed by monitor or mobile device.

Sounds good, how much was your setup roughly? Anyone got any ideas how much I should pay for 3-4 cameras with DVR fully fitted, theres an ad up on gumtree for £500 incl all equipement and fitting.

 

[Kamwah]

True but it would give you that peace of mind, knowing that you could have a quick look while at work to check if everything is ok etc.

Aren't most CCTV cameras for outside? You'd be lucky to catch them in the act when you was watching from work.

Also to Majnu. Half the time it's not a pro job where they scope out the house. It's mostly random or they aren't stupid enough to sit in front of cameras.

 

[godinman]

£500 incl all equipement and fitting.

Tbh, in my experience, for a home system (i.e, not a high end £500 for a fixed camera system) you'd be looking in the region of £600 for the equipment, minimum. Fitting would be the same again, depending where you live.

That's for some (4) decent resolution IR vandal dome cameras, with a Sony super had 1/3" ccd chip, proper IR cut filters and a decent lens. Coupled with a reliable recorder with good quality remote access and a PSU that wont burn your house down.

 

[digisatman]

Tbh, in my experience, for a home system (i.e, not a high end £500 for a fixed camera system) you'd be looking in the region of £600 for the equipment, minimum. Fitting would be the same again, depending where you live.

That's for some (4) decent resolution IR vandal dome cameras, with a Sony super had 1/3" ccd chip, proper IR cut filters and a decent lens. Coupled with a reliable recorder with good quality remote access and a PSU that wont burn your house down.

Was looking to spend max £4-500, but I guess you get what you pay for it.

Ill call a few local places tomorrow and let you guys know what quotes I get etc.

 

[godinman]

Imo DIY would be the way to do it cheaply, spend £500 on equipment and install it yourself, it's nothing to difficult really and that way you'll get some half decent equipment. I'd be majorly surprised if you find someone to do the job for £500, still, will be interesting to see.

I do this for a living, so if you need any advice trust me.

 

[Teknobry]

I'm looking to do exactly the same, 3 cameras to cover the outside of the house linked to a DVR which will allow remote viewing on a phone via the internet.

A friend who fitted a CCTV system for the company he worked for looked into a lot of different cameras and setups and found that there is a lot of cheap nasty cameras from china badged up to pass as decent quality gear. (especially on ebay!) He eventually found a firm in stoke who knew what they were talking about and their prices were good for the quality you were buying.
http://www.bigbrothersystems.com/

Came to about £500 for what I want including the cabling.

 

[wkingsnorth]

From what I've heard, the police has to be notified, and it has to be recorded onto a system you can't tamper with and a few other things, otherwise it's worthless because you can't prove that you didn't just put a fake timestamp to prove person x was near place y at time z

 

[Twirlywoos]

Sounds good, how much was your setup roughly? Anyone got any ideas how much I should pay for 3-4 cameras with DVR fully fitted, theres an ad up on gumtree for £500 incl all equipement and fitting.

Paid £400 for it over 2 years ago fitted and demod. That was for 4 cameras, dvr and a 2Tb hard drive.

 

[bitslice]

this. a nice sized dummy cam and some 'this area is protected by cctv' stickers will deter the chancers, but anyone that is serious about stealing, will know the picture quality on the home systems is so poor it will rarely help with a conviction.

I'd asume any chav could spot a fake camera - no IR, missing cables, blinking LED, toy casing etc.

You do need to site the camera sensibly, getting a blurry shot of someone's bald spot isn't going to help.

From what I've heard, the police has to be notified, and it has to be recorded onto a system you can't tamper with and a few other things,

Nope, a picture is a picture, chances are they will know them already.

A Geovision card is another option btw

 

[lewism]

The problem with most home or low end is people are paying lidl prices an expecting wait rose quality. If your property is that valuable to you spend at least £1500. Its not even the price of a top end telly!

Little tip. If you're getting someone in to do it and they don't have a scope and a human cut out the best you'll get if someone does anything is an outline of it happening. No face hots, no proper evidence and a waste of time.

 

[One]

i find a pygmy head in the front window works a treat, heres mine !!

Spoiler

works out the same price as a 4 way PVR with cameras

Jesus! Is that real ffs?

 

[V F]

The problem with most home or low end is people are paying lidl prices an expecting wait rose quality. If your property is that valuable to you spend at least £1500. Its not even the price of a top end telly!

It's better than nothing. Can't see most going to lengths with their house like you're protecting a bank. Especially annoying kids that chap your door then bolt.


Damn pricey for HD cameras. Would love that. Though I'd prefer it all rigged up to a DVR box.


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Heh, desires.

 

[lewism]

One decent £400 IP camera can do the job of 3 BNC jobbies. No loss of picture quality. In frame zooming etc. the kit has come. Long way and if you split £1500 over ten years your only looking at £12/13 a month. Hardly breaking the bank for something that does the job. I'd rather have something good than just a vague outline of something happening.

If you don't want to spend much just buy a couple of pelco domes on eBay, stick a junction box on your wall and run a bit of copex to the camer. Job done.

 

[Windle]

Alarm is better deterrent than cameras imo, particularly if you have decent neighbours who will come and check it out if it goes off.

 

[dokko]

I'm thinking about getting a cheap kit, more as a deterrent than anything else.

£120 for the SumVision TUTIS SV-244S, has anyone had any experience with this kind of kit, I understand its pretty low end, but I don't have the coin for an all singing all dancing solution.


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Network Interface: RJ45 10/100
Record Modes: Always / Scheduled / Manual / Motion / Alarm / Web client.
Backup: backup files saved in .264
Firmware: Supports USB firmware upgrade
Resolution: CIF / HD1 / D1
Audio Code Rate: 32KB/s
Video input: 4 Channel composite video input 1.0V BNC connector.
Remote Control: Yes.
Voltage(Min-Max): AC 110
240V
Power Consumption: 6W (no HDD installed)
Working Environment: -10 °C
50 °C
Images sensor: 1/4" Sony Super HAD CCD
Serial Interface: Supports 1 x RS485
Video Code Rate: CIF: 384 - 768Kbps, HD1: 512 - 1024Kbps, D1: 512 - 1024Kbps
Alarm Output: 1 alarm output
Video Compression: H.264
Audio Compression: ADPCM
Record Style: Audio/video simultaneous recording
Basic Electricity Output: Linearity electricity
Horizontal Resolution: 420TVL
Pack Time: 15 / 30 / 45 / 60 / 120 mins (adjustable)
Effective Pixels: PAL: 500 x 582, NTSC: 510 x 492
Data Storage: SATA HDD storage
Alarm Input: 4 alarm inputs
Network Functions: Support for mobile surveillance, Internet Explorer browsing, live remote surveillance
Audio Input: 4 channel input, impedance 600O RCA
Video Standard: PAL: 25f/s CCIR625line, 50Hz NTSC: 30f/s CCIR525line, 60Hz
Display1/4 channel switch Video Output1 composite video output BNC connecter Audio Output1 channel output, impedance 600O RCA Casing MaterialAluminium Alloy Signal SystemPAL / NTSC
Infrared Lamps: Night/Day , on/off
Infrared Wavelength: 850nm
Power Consumption: 12V DC, 120mA (Max. power consumption 300mA when infrared lamps on)
Shutter Speed 1/50 (1/60) - 1/100,000 sec
Gamma Characteristics 0.45
Minimum Illumination 0 Lux (infrared lamps turned on)
Signal to Noise RatioMore thn 48dB (AGC off)
Video Output 1.0V 75
Viewing Distance 10

 

[monkey_boy]

Those people looking at cheapos as a deterrent- don't bother. If you get broken into how annoyed are you going to be that you didn't spend the extra couple of hundred pounds and do it properly. Spend more on the camera and less on the server DVD etc. I have a single d link 6113 dome camera. It is not rated as weather proof but it is a well covered dome camera mounted onto the soffit board. It has 1080 resolution and have hooked it up to x protect go but only because it is the cut down version of what we use at work and I had a server that I could use. Otherwise I would use the onboard micro sd slot and power it with a poe injector and just leave it until I needed it. The card will write over itself when it gets full and it just sits there and works.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

The problem with most home or low end is people are paying lidl prices an expecting wait rose quality. If your property is that valuable to you spend at least £1500. Its not even the price of a top end telly!

Little tip. If you're getting someone in to do it and they don't have a scope and a human cut out the best you'll get if someone does anything is an outline of it happening. No face hots, no proper evidence and a waste of time.

lmao

go to alibaba and buy the same £1500 equipment for 1/4 of the price direct from the manufacturer. everything is made in china these days, so best to cut out all the middle men and go direct.

also a top end telly can easily be had for £750-£800 (i have a 51" D8000 which was £769 with 5 year warranty and 2 sets of 3d glasses and a 50" GT50 on the way for £810 with 5 year warranty and 2 sets of 3d glasses).

also in regards to the law you may need to apply for permission in order to use cctv in a public space, especially since your going for outdoor cameras that will be pointing onto the street, into other people's homes, etc. you will need to also make sure that if it is being recorded that it is also kept secure, etc also and properly registered and maintained. there's all sorts of legal stuff, if it isn't properly registered, then any video evidence cannot be used in court, therefore if there is no other evidence or not enough evidence the person can walk. also there will be a time limit for how long you can keep recordings for under the data protection act. therefore you could potentially go to jail if the law is not adhered to as above.

imo you would be a lot better off using indoor cameras, therefore it is not a public space and you can do as you like and you do not need to register and it can be used in court, you can also keep it for as long as you like.