Hot Hatch Spec Me 10k

Zeed · 27 Jan 2016 at 11:10

Well I would vote for
BMW 135 something bit different with RWD

slick rick · 27 Jan 2016 at 11:23

MKV R32 DSG, 10K should get a nice example.

DAIR · 27 Jan 2016 at 11:24

AndrewNR said:
A 2-seater hot hatch is kinda pointless to be fair.

I don't get it.... Pointless how?

AndrewNR · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:09

DAIR said:
I don't get it.... Pointless how?

Surely you buy a hatchback for more than 2 seats?

If I was after a 2-seater, a Mini wouldn't be on the list.

DAIR · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:14

AndrewNR said:
Surely you buy a hatchback for more than 2 seats?

If I was after a 2-seater, a Mini wouldn't be on the list.

Depends on what you want I guess.

Number of seats didn't bother me. Which is why I had no problem going for the GP.

However, if the OP wants something a little "softer", then perhaps one of the more mainstream options would suit him.

LiE · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:20

slick rick said:
MKV R32 DSG, 10K should get a nice example.

GTI is considered a better hot hatch, the R32 is a more rounder car and nice cruiser.

AndrewNR · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:20

DAIR said:
Depends on what you want I guess.

Number of seats didn't bother me. Which is why I had no problem going for the GP.

However, if the OP wants something a little "softer", then perhaps one of the more mainstream options would suit him.

I'm sure it's a great steer on and off track but to me it's not practical enough to be considered a hatchback in conventional sense and not special enough to only have 2 seats.

Like you say, if he's happy with a compromised hatchback it is a good leftfield choice.

slick rick · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:39

LiE said:
GTI is considered a better hot hatch, the R32 is a more rounder car and nice cruiser.

The engine in the R32 is superb, so smooth and sounds great. The GTI's are fantastic cars too, the ED30 is very nice!

xs2man · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:42

LiE said:
GTI is considered a better hot hatch, the R32 is a more rounder car and nice cruiser.

All day long I'd pick the GTI before the R32. And the ED30 before the GTI. And the Pirelli Edition before the ED30 (but that is just due to rarity).

But then I'm not really a fan of most V6's / straight 6's. Unless they are 'charged, I generally don't find them fast enough. Not for the amount of fuel they drink. But then that isn't really a consideration here.

LiE · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:47

Yep, in terms of hot hatches my personal preference would be a manual ED30 with a remap.

slick rick · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:54

I like the R32 because it will likely be one of the last hatches to have a large displacement NA motor fitted and it does have an excellent soundtrack.

Remapped ED30 would certainly be a fun car.

SC0TTRS · 27 Jan 2016 at 12:58

Looked at R32's myself and always get put off with the potential £505 a year road tax :-/

slick rick · 27 Jan 2016 at 13:05

SC0TTRS said:
Looked at R32's myself and always get put off with the potential £505 a year road tax :-/

Yeah unless you get an early car that is an issue.

Armageus · 27 Jan 2016 at 13:16

Southy_ said:
Look at the Golf, Would more people echo the Edition 30 version? it seems a lot more money than similar aged non-ed30?

LiE said:
GTI is considered a better hot hatch, the R32 is a more rounder car and nice cruiser.

xs2man said:
All day long I'd pick the GTI before the R32. And the ED30 before the GTI. And the Pirelli Edition before the ED30 (but that is just due to rarity)

Unless the Golf GTI handles much different than the equivalent A3 that I own (2.0TFSI), then as a "hot hatch" I personally don't think that it feels that special. The R56 Cooper S I owned before that, was more exciting to drive and in my head felt more like I expected a hot hatch to be.

Whilst an R32 probably isn't hot hatch either, at least the engine is something a bit out of the ordinary.

With regards to the ED30 vs GTI, bear in mind that a remap (Revo,AmD or even Superchips) of the standard GTI will take you straight to 240bhp.

If mileage/age doesn't come into it, then maybe an S3 could be an option?
e.g. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601210283864

LiE · 27 Jan 2016 at 13:19

The GTI will handle different to your A3.

The ED30 demands the premium because of it's internals which are essentially the same as an S3, which allows it to remap 300bhp easily.

Nasher · 27 Jan 2016 at 18:32

Yea the Golf GTI handles way better than the A3. The A3's handling isn't all that great, especially compared to a hot hatch.

xs2man · 27 Jan 2016 at 18:58

Armageus said:
Unless the Golf GTI handles much different than the equivalent A3 that I own (2.0TFSI), then as a "hot hatch" I personally don't think that it feels that special. The R56 Cooper S I owned before that, was more exciting to drive and in my head felt more like I expected a hot hatch to be.

Whilst an R32 probably isn't hot hatch either, at least the engine is something a bit out of the ordinary.

With regards to the ED30 vs GTI, bear in mind that a remap (Revo,AmD or even Superchips) of the standard GTI will take you straight to 240bhp.

If mileage/age doesn't come into it, then maybe an S3 could be an option?
e.g. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601210283864

As said, a remap on the ED30 takes it north of 300 BHP. Well beyond what you could reasonably expect from remapping a GTI. And it handles significantly better than your A3, which is just a standard hatchback.

LiE said:
The GTI will handle different to your A3.

The ED30 demands the premium because of it's internals which are essentially the same as an S3, which allows it to remap 300bhp easily.

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