How can men actually be this cruel?

[Samtheman1k]

EDIT: Ignore.

 

[theleg]

Haha all these guys here who clearly think they can just give up their responsibilities you need to just grow up. From most of these comments I'd say the majority of you have never had it or have never been in an important relationship/have any respect for women. Its as plain and simple as this; if you are going to go around putting your baby making device into girls then accept the fact that you can make a baby, whether you intend to or not. You can't just relinquish your responsibilites like that because it's "just sex" with a girl. If you can't accept your share of the responsibilty and accept the consequences of those actions then I say you're too young to being having sex. It's just ridiculous to say "ah but I didn't want a baby so you must get rid"... You had sex, get it down you and deal with it.

It goes both ways mate...

The extremes are unfair either way...Remember that if it was him who wanted to keep the baby and she wanted an abortion, he could do absolutely nothing....

In one situation he has full responsibility, in the other situation he has absolutely no responsibility or input...

In my opinion, you cant have it both ways.

 

[basmic]

Problem solved. Thread closed.

 

[AJUK]

.... But he should've just used protection....

So could she.

Both as bad as each other and quite frankly she doesn't seem anywhere near mature enough to have a child.

 

[Samtheman1k]

So could she.

Both as bad as each other and quite frankly she doesn't seem anywhere near mature enough to have a child.

Indeed. I don't she why it's all his fault. Surely she would have known that she had a good chance of getting preggers if they didn't use protection? Or was that her intention...?

 

[Neoni]

Indeed. I don't she why it's all his fault. Surely she would have known that she had a good chance of getting preggers if they didn't use protection? Or was that her intention...?

thats what makes me think, was it her intention if so she should be shot.

 

[aardvark]

yep - another vote for they are both as bad as each other.

they both should have used protection as they are both clearly not mature enough to realise the enormity of having a child at such a young age - you can hardly blame the father for behaving irrationally - he's likely to be terrified - and the girl (and her friends) seem incapable of looking at the issue from someone else's perspective

but this is a very difficult and sensitive situation and wish them all the best

 

[PaulStat]

Congrats, im sure a lot of people agree with you.

yup

 

[Stiff_Cookie]

As a Christian i do find the way you put that Offensive.

Next time you say something like that maybe you could say it differently?
I might only be one person but there are millions of Christians that would have burnt you at the stake for that

Just try respect other peoples beliefs in future

Well, I am sorry I offended you but I was expressing my belief.

Balddog, I dont know what is being said between the man and the woman in the OP. My comments were based on the generic question of responsibility for an unwanted child.

I agree with you, if a woman does not want to get pregnant than she needs to take actions to avoid getting pregnant. If she does get pregnant however, both parents need to step up and take responsibility.

From what it sounds like in the OP the man doesnt want to take responsibility. IMO, he needs to step up and sit down with the mother and they both need to agree on steps to take. If the mother is happy with the father having nothing to do with the child than fine, it is an agreement. However, I think it is wrong for either side to flat out refuse to contribute to the upbringing of the child, if they choose to keep it.

I also think that if the pregnancy is unwanted and the father wants to keep it than the child should be allowed to live. Just because it is the mother who has to give birth doesnt mean she should be making all the decisions because the pregnancy was a result of TWO peoples actions.

 

[Priapus]

Or if there was some extreme genetic problem which would cause the baby to have a horrible quality of life and probably die soon after birth?

Again, in that case abortion would be best. As bringing a baby into this world, whose life would obviously be very, very difficult and hard. Wouldn't be fair.

Then that’s entirely her problem.

IMHO, you should only be liable for maintainance if you willingly have a child with a girl and then clear off and leave her - in those circumstances, you should pay.

But after an 'accident' I personally find it quite wrong that the decision on whether you become a father, let alone be financially liable, is purely in the hands of somebody else and you are powerless to do anything.

It is entirely true that you should take precautions, but then the onus is equally on the girl as well...

Fox, I'm amazed that you've said the above; I thought you'd know better?

In any case, no matter what. Both the Father and Mother take responsibility for the baby. It takes two to have sex. If he did not want a child, he would've been a lot more careful, accidents do happen, yes. But that doesn't excuse him from leaving his responsibility at all.

The Father, in my view, is liable for financially for the child. As well as the mother.

If she gets pregnant through a failure of protection and the guy wants abortion and she doesn't why should the guy have to change his life for that especially if its not in marriage and you know its not a girl you want to spend the rest of your life with. You shouldn't let a baby get in the way of your life if you don't want it too and the baby wasn't planned.

That's because it's her body, both of your child. So, since it's her body and child, she has every right to keep it, regardless of your opinion on the matter. If birth control failed, then fine. Deal with it. You have sex with someone, accepting the risks evolved.

It's not fair to let the girl go through an abortion. Do you have any idea what that can do to some woman? I know first hand as a friend of mine had an abortion. Almost finished her. 3 years after the abortion, she still cries about it. Also she's very bitter towards men now. Is this fair, to you?

It most certainly isn't to me.

you are perfectly entitled to not have anything todo with the baby if she doesn't get an abortion

Are you serious? You must be joking?
Most ridiculous thing I've heard in this thread. No wonder Wild58 has quoted you in his signature. If the girl doesn't want an abortion. Tough luck, pal. Suck it up, and deal with it. You have no right to ditch her and leave her to deal with the child on her own!

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Problem solved. Thread closed.

Basmic, that's disgusting. I had more respect for you, not it's all gone because of that.

I can seriously not believe some of the comments of this forum. No wonder the UK is full of teen Mothers with no fathers to take care of their child.

 

[Samtheman1k]

I can seriously not believe some of the comments of this forum. No wonder the UK is full of teen Mothers with no fathers to take care of their child.

I can't believe how women let themselves get pregnant so easily either!

 

[Priapus]

So could she.

Both as bad as each other and quite frankly she doesn't seem anywhere near mature enough to have a child.

Yes, you're right. She could've as well, as it isn't left up to the male only. How can you make such a statement, without any knowledge of the girl? Also, that's not what the rest of the topic is about.

 

[Priapus]

I can't believe how women let themselves get pregnant so easily either!

I'm not too sure if they let themselves get pregnant. Maybe they do because of the Social Benefits over there, which is sinking that country deeper in debt every year.

 

[Priapus]

thats what makes me think, was it her intention if so she should be shot.

I can 100% guarantee you now, that it was not her intention at all to fall pregnant. You should be shot for making such a ridicules statement.

 

[pinkegobox]

I can seriously not believe some of the comments of this forum. No wonder the UK is full of teen Mothers with no fathers to take care of their child.

My answer to this was probably going to stereotype all teen mothers in the uk, and as such was probably unfair, however it does seem to be true that it's "cool" to have a baby nowadays. very scary times.

 

[Neoni]

I can 100% guarantee you now, that it was not her intention at all to fall pregnant. You should be shot for making such a ridicules statement.

BS. why didnt she use protection then?

you my friend need to open your eyes and stop thinking that he is in the wrong when what it all boils down to is, there as bad as each other.

 

[pinkegobox]

I can 100% guarantee you now, that it was not her intention at all to fall pregnant. You should be shot for making such a ridicules statement.

and you too, for suggesting that a ridiculous statement is worth shooting someone over!

 

[Priapus]

and you too, for suggesting that a ridiculous statement is worth shooting someone over!

I wasn't being serious. Was trying to show what a ridiculous statment he made.

Neon: They are both as bad as his other. Yes. However this thread has gone sideways. What the original post was about, is him making threats to her if she keeps the baby.

 

[Neoni]

I wasn't being serious. Was trying to show what a ridiculous statment he made.

Neon: They are both as bad as his other. Yes. However this thread has gone sideways. What the original post was about, is him making threats to her if she keeps the baby.

if she keeps the baby shes a fool, its not even a baby yet, so its easy enough to have an abortion, and to ring him up and say hes a "daddy" is way out of order.

 

[Priapus]

if she keeps the baby shes a fool, its not even a baby yet, so its easy enough to have an abortion, and to ring him up and say hes a "daddy" is way out of order.

How is it out of order? Regardless how old or how formed the baby is, he is still a Daddy. She might be a little silly for keeping the baby. But I'll be glad if she does as she will have a lot of support from family and friends.