This is rubbish and I don't know why you insist on posting it. IF swimming certificates exist for the kids, then this proves they can swim, however an absence of swimming certificates in no way proves they can't
How can three people drown in this pool ?
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This is rubbish and I don't know why you insist on posting it. IF swimming certificates exist for the kids, then this proves they can swim, however an absence of swimming certificates in no way proves they can't
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It does seem to be a mysterious, tradgic family event, at this point in time.
It made me recall the family tradgedy in Northern Ireland, where three members died in a slurry tank https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19618661
No idea how reputatable a source this link is, but could there have been a massive overdose of chlorination chemicals added to the pool water just prior to family going poolside and a chlorine gas cloud formed over the pool, causing major issues when combined with the chilly pool water? Gas cloud then dispersed by time investigation took place? https://www.livescience.com/62839-chlorine-gas-cloud-swimming-pool.html
It made me recall the family tradgedy in Northern Ireland, where three members died in a slurry tank https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19618661
No idea how reputatable a source this link is, but could there have been a massive overdose of chlorination chemicals added to the pool water just prior to family going poolside and a chlorine gas cloud formed over the pool, causing major issues when combined with the chilly pool water? Gas cloud then dispersed by time investigation took place? https://www.livescience.com/62839-chlorine-gas-cloud-swimming-pool.html
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Only on OcUK do you get this level of investigating journalism.
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All 3 at same time, not good odds?
Well, you end up with 3 people dragging each other down. It’s pretty common for “rescuers” to die in those circumstances where they too will suffer the same incident as the person they are trying to rescue.
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Panic, poor swimmers, poor rescue ability, and cold/deep water are not a good combination.
It is by far the most plausible and sensible option with the facts we have.
Until more facts, or evidence comes to light, the most plausible is the most likely.
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Yes non/really bad swimmers as said initially not what the mother is now claiming, I just do not see how the shock to system happened to three people at same time in a holiday pool, in a Lake or Loch sure even in summer (even then three would be a push).
I initially though about the filtration system sucked one down.
I initially though about the filtration system sucked one down.
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The reports on this story have changed multiple times since it was first published.
Initially reports suggested the 9 year old was swimming with her 12 year old sister, who returned to the room, and was asked about her sisters whereabouts.
Then the brother and father went to the pool, and attempted to rescue her.
This entire aspect now seems to have changed.
The bodies were recovered by a staff member, who was reported to have told police that he had trouble returning to the surface initially.
Reports were that the surviving girl and the bodies were tested for chlorine poisoning and nothing was detected.
Reports also suggested the entire pool system was checked and found to be in working order and maintained.
Her swimming cap was found in the filter system.
There was a suggestion that the pool vacuum system could go into overdrive if something caused a short in a filtration system which could reset itself.
This might have sucked the wee girl down, then cold water shock contributed along with poor swimming ability and powerful suction to the deaths of the brother and father.
Initially reports suggested the 9 year old was swimming with her 12 year old sister, who returned to the room, and was asked about her sisters whereabouts.
Then the brother and father went to the pool, and attempted to rescue her.
This entire aspect now seems to have changed.
The bodies were recovered by a staff member, who was reported to have told police that he had trouble returning to the surface initially.
Reports were that the surviving girl and the bodies were tested for chlorine poisoning and nothing was detected.
Reports also suggested the entire pool system was checked and found to be in working order and maintained.
Her swimming cap was found in the filter system.
There was a suggestion that the pool vacuum system could go into overdrive if something caused a short in a filtration system which could reset itself.
This might have sucked the wee girl down, then cold water shock contributed along with poor swimming ability and powerful suction to the deaths of the brother and father.
Pretty sure if there was a whiff of that being possible we’d know by now via official channels as it would stop this whole charade.
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This thread shows there are many here who should consider penning a Miss Marple or Poirot episode....Or becoming a police CID officer.
Where did I say an absence proves they can’t - try reading what I actually posted in the first place rather than saying “this is rubbish”. You’re just arguing against something you’ve made up...
The other poster said it can't be proved either way - I've pointed out that this isn't true, the ability to swim can be shown - you've agreed that swimming certificates could indeed show that the kids could swim... not quite sure what your problem is tbh...
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One of the most tragic videos I've seen was a guy jumping in to rescue a drowning man. He panicked and kept climbing onto the guy trying to help him and they both subsequently drowned. To be able to rescue someone you really have to either have excellent technique or be a significantly stronger or larger swimmer than the person you are helping.
Lots of people go swimming over here every Christmas day or boxing day in water around that
https://guernseypress.com/news/2018/12/27/a-good-way-to-shake-off-some-christmas-excess/
https://www.thebestof.co.uk/local/g...ing-day-dip-in-aid-of-guernsey-cheshire-home/
Was that the guy trying to retrieve the log and the older guy jumps in tries to rescue him and he pulls him under, there are a few of those on YouTube.
Happens so fast.
This sounds like a case of negligence on both sides, the hotel for not having buoys, grapplers, ropes, lifeguards and the family for letting their daughter into pool without armbands and not being able to swim well.
I've never seen anyone getting in to trouble rescuing a log on Youtube
A wood craftsman sees a log floating in the river that he wants to create a furniture or whatever out of, he asks his assistant to jump in and retrieve it, turns out there were serious currents and whirlpools working under the water, the assistant is getting sucked under, frantically trying to stay above the surface. The first guy jumps in, swims over to him and the inevitable happens, he grabs him and ends up pulling him under, all happens in a couple of minutes if that.
I've seen quite a few drownings on YouTube. Horrible stuff.