How close to the red line do you normally get?

The 1.8 Lancer I'm driving at the moment redlines at 6k, but runs out of puff at 5k.

Many times I've revved it high trying to pull away from a junction, to reach about 5200 and realise I'm not going to get a kick up the backside and another 2500rpm to play with, like I'm used to in my Prelude.

In the Prelude, I often take it to it's redline of 7500rpm, and I have also hit the limiter at 7750 quite a few times!

Once I get my JDM engine put in it, and an ECU chip to derestrict, and provide VTEC in 1st (you lose it when converting from KPH to MPH, as the ECU won't engage VTEC unless you're doing 18mph, which when converted from KPH to MPH, it will never see in 1st), but also increased the rev limiter to about 8200.
 
ConfusedTA said:
Once I get my JDM engine put in it, and an ECU chip to derestrict, and provide VTEC in 1st (you lose it when converting from KPH to MPH, as the ECU won't engage VTEC unless you're doing 18mph, which when converted from KPH to MPH, it will never see in 1st), but also increased the rev limiter to about 8200.
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Thats only if the speed converter is fitted in the wrong place, ie. on the VSS so it effects the speed reading to the speedo and ECU. It should be fitted on the line to the speedo so the VSS signal isnt effected, this also means the gear ratio trims arn't effected which effects ignition/fuel slightly... of course this means you have 180 kph restrictor still.
 
dirtydog said:
The torque does but not the bhp which is what you need for max acceleration. So it isn't pointless :)
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Torque curve aside, it is still relatively pointless unless you're on a race track :p

Personally i use the red line to let me know when to change
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What the hell... :/ I'd hate to be a passenger in your car! :o
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Thats only if the speed converter is fitted in the wrong place, ie. on the VSS so it effects the speed reading to the speedo and ECU. It should be fitted on the line to the speedo so the VSS signal isnt effected, this also means the gear ratio trims arn't effected which effects ignition/fuel slightly... of course this means you have 180 kph restrictor still.
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Yeah I know that :) I know the 180kph limiter is the lesser of two evils, but I'm coming from a UKDM engine/ECU, which has neither restriction ;)
 
NathanE said:
Bit pointless doing this unless you're showing off or something ;) The torque curve on most road cars drops off well before the red line.
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Mine attains max torque by 3,000 RPM (I guess by max boost?), and holds it steady above 300NM until just over 5,000 RPM. It holds above 260NM until 6,500 RPM too.

I'll change around 6,000 RPM if i'm "gunning" it. This leaves me well within the power band for next gear. If i'm driving economically, i'll change around 3,500 to try and stay out of boost for as long as possible.
 
NathanE said:
Torque curve aside, it is still relatively pointless unless you're on a race track :p
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I don't quite understand your logic :) Some cars reach their max torque at ~2000rpm, but changing up at that point is hardly conducive to making good progress. It isn't pointless at all unless you are just toddling around to get from A to B.
 
I normally change gear at about 2.5k

But in 4th I leave till till about 3k sometimes 3.5 my redlines about 6/7k
 
5200 is as high as i go and my red line is 6200.

I think i read somewhere that 5200 is my peak torque so i dont see the point in red lining it as its not going to produce any benefits.
 
dirtydog said:
I don't quite understand your logic :) Some cars reach their max torque at ~2000rpm, but changing up at that point is hardly conducive to making good progress. It isn't pointless at all unless you are just toddling around to get from A to B.
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Stop rambling on about torque! :p

All I'm saying is that it's a bit pointless and a bit silly to rag your car everywhere. Wastes fuel, wears components faster, etc etc etc...

paradigm said:
Mine attains max torque by 3,000 RPM (I guess by max boost?), and holds it steady above 300NM until just over 5,000 RPM. It holds above 260NM until 6,500 RPM too.

I'll change around 6,000 RPM if i'm "gunning" it. This leaves me well within the power band for next gear. If i'm driving economically, i'll change around 3,500 to try and stay out of boost for as long as possible.
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Awesome :cool:
 
NathanE said:
Stop rambling on about torque! :p

All I'm saying is that it's a bit pointless and a bit silly to rag your car everywhere. Wastes fuel, wears components faster, etc etc etc...
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Personally I don't drive like that, but if money was no object then I probably would do most of the time because a) it's more fun and b) you (usually) get where you're going quicker. Most of the time I force myself to drive very sedately to extract the maximum fuel economy, but on those occasions when I drive fast, or engage in the traffic light grand prix, I rev it to near the red line to extract the maximum performance :) It is fun to do that occasionally and if you don't, it's pointless having a performance car.
 
If I'm driving my semi-auto car "manually" I change up @ 4500RPM in the main.

If I let the gearbox decide, especially in "Sport mode" it'll happily scream the engine to 6500RPM - which BMW say is quite normal for the engine / gearbox combination.


Hitting the red line in an HGV is utterly pointless. ;)
 
dirtydog said:
Personally I don't drive like that, but if money was no object then I probably would do most of the time because a) it's more fun and b) you (usually) get where you're going quicker. Most of the time I force myself to drive very sedately to extract the maximum fuel economy, but on those occasions when I drive fast, or engage in the traffic light grand prix, I rev it to near the red line to extract the maximum performance :) It is fun to do that occasionally and if you don't, it's pointless having a performance car.
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No saint myself either :o But I couldn't drive like it everywhere. Sooner or later I'd probably crash.
 
NathanE said:
No saint myself either :o But I couldn't drive like it everywhere. Sooner or later I'd probably crash.
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Maybe. It's weird, I used to drive like a lunatic everywhere but the only two times I've crashed was when I was driving sensibly :)
 
Normal day to day driving I will change at around 3k in 1st and 2nd and then around 2.5k in higher gears.

When giving it the beans I usually change up bang on 6k which is quite close to the redline but not on it.
 
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On my 600cc Yamaha Fazer, I stay above 8k once I'm moving and often take it to 13k if I'm going for it. Can't go for it for long though as it red-lines at 14k and 60mph in 1st gear in less than 4 seconds and does about 90mph in 2nd gear. I've no idea what 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th do at the bouncy end. Normally I'll shift at about 11k, so yes, riding my bike is like tap-dancing on the gear lever.

In the car in normal use I shift at 3.5-4k. For a bit more acceleration I use 5.5k. I've been to 6.5k a couple of times, but the engine just goes limp and breathless within about 100rpm. I'm not sure if this is a breathing restriction or the limiter, but it didn't bounce, maybe it will if you hold it long enough to climb, but it didn't seem worth it. Shift up to the next gear at 5.5k and you're still in the power.
 
If im REALLY giving it some, get that needle all the way around the clock, but its only really in second that it sees that takes me up to just over 60, in third your looking at almost 90 so doesnt suit very many country roads! :eek:

Day to day doubt i ever go over 3k unless im overtaking or something.
 
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