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How do police gain evidence for child porn?
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Erm, yes.I know it's not going to happen, but what if it was a 15 year old, living by them self, viewing child porn. Would they still be in trouble?
Isn't that entrapment?
I know it's not going to happen, but what if it was a 15 year old, living by them self, viewing child porn. Would they still be in trouble?
Yes because the material itself is an offence, regardless of the age of who ever is viewing it.
Would have been my thoughts anyway.
Breaking the law to uphold the law
Of course, I do not mean to say that the actions of these extremely sick people (the pedophiles) are right. I just think that if people are going to try and uphold the law, they could at least work with it rather than against it.
Indeed. Setting up "The Crack Store" on high street as a sting operation would not be entrapment unless you, the officers, were actively encouraging people to purchase your wares.
Wouldnt simply changing the filename, or altering just 1 pixel of a picutre, cause a different md5 value to be generated which would not match the un-edited photo md5 values?
They're encouraging people to sign up for this site and when they have the details, thats when they'll hit them.
Saw a TV program about this a few months back, a group of officers are in a room somewhere scanning through every image found on a persons pc that has been confiscated, and searching websites looking at images trying to catch people. They are all sent for mandatory counselling every few months.
Exactly. The filename doesn't matter to the checksum but shifting one bit would change the result. If that happened they'd need to take the photo they suspect is CP and do an old-fashioned investigation to figure out who's pictured.
Not quite the same thing though, is it?
Officer: Sign up to this website or I'll blow your mother's brains out.
Innocent guy: *gulp* Ok...
Officer: You're nicked.
Isn't quite the same as:
1) Set up scummy website explicitly stating what it's about, with a sign-up form.
2) Bust the ***** who sign up.
I can certainly see the difference, even if you can't LOL
BTW I saw the docu too, great stuff. Those guys do a great job and certainly follow through. Anyone remember the recent Interpol case where the perp had altered (swirled/de-pixelated) his face and they managed to restore the image and set up a man hunt? They caught him in Thailand eventually iirc.
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Also i quickly checked wikipedia, and see that a md5 hash is 128 bit, so there are only 2^128 possible hashes, so wouldnt it mean there is also a possibilty of some random file just happening to have the same hash as some CP? In which case MD5 hash checks fail, as it would require checking all the images by hand anyway.
I suppose I see your point, the fact they have a choice in whether to sign up or not. I can't help but feel that given the law system these days though, its something that may be seen as hazy in court. Shame there isn't a more efficient and definitive way to do it
