How do you deal with these nutters?

I don't think you understand the concept of an invasion of privacy, it's nothing to do with the law but how the person who's privacy you're invading perceives it.

e.g. If I'm in the house and see some neckbeard pointing a camera at me, I regard that as an invasion of my privacy.

But that is where your perception is wrong with the majority of society, which is why the law is they way it is. When people photograph the house and not specificity you within it then the house is the subject of the photo and the house has no concept of privacy. Whether you are in the house at the time or not shouldn't matter. It is just irrational paranoia to think something untoward is happening and it is simply not healthy to think that way.
 
he's starting to come across as a bit of an irrational nutjob to me..

:p

Ironically i am one of the few posters who is actually seeing both sides of the argument and have repeatedly said that the photographer should not upset or interfere with the homeowner AND the homeowner should not upset or interfere the photography. Both people are being dicks and there is no need to be a dick.



As for being a nut job, look how many posters have threatened physical violence or stalking and intimidation as a solution (as opposed to calm civil discussion or walking away as my solution) . There are your nutjobs right there.
 
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But that is where your perception is wrong with the majority of society, which is why the law is they way it is. When people photograph the house and not specificity you within it then the house is the subject of the photo and the house has no concept of privacy. Whether you are in the house at the time or not shouldn't matter. It is just irrational paranoia to think something untoward is happening and it is simply not healthy to think that way.

Actually it's where YOUR perception is wrong, you keep bringing up "the law" which has absolutely no relevance, you can do lots of things legally it doesn't mean that you should and that they won't annoy others. Photographers should not feel they have a god given right to be an a-hole just because the law is on their side.
 
Actually it's where YOUR perception is wrong, you keep bringing up "the law" which has absolutely no relevance, you can do lots of things legally it doesn't mean that you should and that they won't annoy others. Photographers should not feel they have a god given right to be an a-hole just because the law is on their side.

The law reflects the moral code of society for the most part, so it is absolutely relevant. Society has deemed it accept to photograph in public places.

I agree that photographers should not be a-holes, but then homeowners should not either, no one should.
 
Actually it's where YOUR perception is wrong, you keep bringing up "the law" which has absolutely no relevance, you can do lots of things legally it doesn't mean that you should and that they won't annoy others. Photographers should not feel they have a god given right to be an a-hole just because the law is on their side.

What the hell! It's only bricks and mortar. You are not married to it lol :D
 
So your solution to someone doing something perfectly harmless and legal is to stalk them which is classed as illegal harassment and intimidate?
I'm sure there's some irony in this post :)

There's something creepy about taking pictures of someone's home. I suggest you go and take some pictures of planes instead, or perhaps start taking down train numbers in a nice notepad if you really have nothing better to do but moan about people who don't want their privacy invaded because you want to grab a few no doubt arbitrary pictures.

Just because it's legal it doesn't always make it ethical.
 
I'm sure there's some irony in this post :)

There's something creepy about taking pictures of someone's home. I suggest you go and take some pictures of planes instead, or perhaps start taking down train numbers in a nice notepad if you really have nothing better to do but moan about people who don't want their privacy invaded because you want to grab a few no doubt arbitrary pictures.

Just because it's legal it doesn't always make it ethical.

You tell me what's so unethical about taking a picture of an inanimate object: and by inanimate, something that is certainly not going to have any feelings that are likely to get hurt?
 
You're clouding the issue here. I'm not bothered about the house per se. I'm bothered by the fact it's something my family and I live in. Somewhere my family feels safe and secure where I believe they're entitled to privacy.
I don't want some creep rocking up and taking pictures of it. It's not what I would call normal behaviour - although the OP has branded the unhappy dweller as the lunatic.
 
Why isn't taking a picture of a house classed as "normal behaviour" and why have you labelled any person who does such things as a creep then?
 
I'm sure there's some irony in this post :)

There's something creepy about taking pictures of someone's home. I suggest you go and take some pictures of planes instead, or perhaps start taking down train numbers in a nice notepad if you really have nothing better to do but moan about people who don't want their privacy invaded because you want to grab a few no doubt arbitrary pictures.

Just because it's legal it doesn't always make it ethical.

You telling me there is something creepy about taking a photo of buckingham palace, shakespear's birthplace, chatsworth house, ascot house? What planet do you live on?

Architecture is one of the most popular forms of photography, there is nothing creepy about it at all. A nice period house with a well kept garden can make for a wonderful photo, as can anything with unique architecture, or even modern buildings can present interesting geometries and textures. Houses have been the subject of artwork for centuries and centuries.

Why the heck would I want to take a photo of a plane, they are boring.


Ethics have nothing to do with this. Photographing houses is ethical, you cannot be unethical to a house, it is inanimate), if it wasn't ethical it would likely be illegal.
 
You're clouding the issue here. I'm not bothered about the house per se. I'm bothered by the fact it's something my family and I live in. Somewhere my family feels safe and secure where I believe they're entitled to privacy.
I don't want some creep rocking up and taking pictures of it. It's not what I would call normal behaviour - although the OP has branded the unhappy dweller as the lunatic.

Why are you branding photographers creeps? That is just insulting.

No one cares about photos of your family, they want the photo of the house, if it is interesting and photogenic. A house is made of bricks and mortar, don't get so worked up about it if someone wants to photograph it.
 
Why are you branding photographers creeps? That is just insulting.

No one cares about photos of your family, they want the photo of the house, if it is interesting and photogenic. A house is made of bricks and mortar, don't get so worked up about it if someone wants to photograph it.

Honestly get over it. I'm not the first person who's suggested the behaviour is odd, and yes creepy.

Where did I brand all photographers creepy?

You're taking what I've said then inflating it for your own argument.

Speaking of which I really can't be arsed with this. I have an opinion which is aligned with others - deal with it. I accept there are people who want to take pictures which are places of interest, like some of these mentioned. I'll leave it there. This is pointless.
 
Got to say I'm with DP on this one.

If I'm out in public and someone politely raises a concern with my action or behaviour (no matter what that might be), even if it was lawful, I'd want to listen to their concerns and accommodate them whenever possible. Civilised people recognise that there are different perspectives on every situation, and will aim to resolve issues through mutual cooperation.

If someone is rude/shouty, I'm going to be disinclined to let them ruin my day and will probably just ignore them and carry on. Partially because I don't want to engage with rude/shouty people, and partly because I don't like fuelling people's misplaced self-entitlement.

If the public being able to see through your windows bothers you that much, buy some curtains.

Where did I brand all photographers creepy:

Right here:

I don't want some creep rocking up and taking pictures of it.

You're ok with photographers taking pictures in public, as long as they're not taking pictures of *your stuff*?
 
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That's not branding all photographers as creepy is it? Jesus Christ.

No, just those who like taking pictures of things.

I like taking pictures of things. You're saying that if I happened to take a picture of your house (who knows why, maybe I like it, maybe I'm doing some architectural research, maybe I'm taking a picture of something else and your house is in the background), then I'm a creep.
 
Got to say I'm with DP on this one.

If I'm out in public and someone politely raises a concern with my action or behaviour (no matter what that might be), even if it was lawful, I'd want to listen to their concerns and accommodate them whenever possible. Civilised people recognise that there are different perspectives on every situation, and will aim to resolve issues through mutual cooperation.

If someone is rude/shouty, I'm going to be disinclined to let them ruin my day and will probably just ignore them and carry on. Partially because I don't want to engage with rude/shouty people, and partly because I don't like fuelling people's misplaced self-entitlement.

If the public being able to see through your windows bothers you that much, buy some curtains.



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You're ok with photographers taking pictures in public, as long as they're not taking pictures of *your stuff*?

There is zero evidence of any rudeness, that was added by D.P.
 
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