How do you manage being managed out?

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So I’m being hit with disciplinarys for stupid things first one I forgot to put something down in the service sheet. my bad, a bit harsh. A quick word would have cleared up any issues but I’ll own that one

then I was hit with another. Apparently I missed a big chunk missing from a tyre, I know it wasn’t there as I took the wheel off put it on the balancer and checked the whole tyre. The evidence picture was tyre off the wheel and off the car so it could be some random tyre out of the scrap pile.

There’s also a written statement saying he didn’t tell me about another issue because He didt have time as the customer was waiting to collect the car and that he spotted it while he was checking my advisory items.
But he had time to get authorization for repairs and for me to carry out the repairs.

He also lowered a car whilst I was under. I was recording at the time and have him at the controls. Looking at the video there are no clear warnings, no waiting until the ramp was clear and using marks on the wall show the hight of the ramp before and after his finger pressing the button, this is all from under the ramp.
Grievance outcome was that there are two clear warnings and the manager followed correct protocol.
Maybe there was a warning, maybe I didt hear as the engine was running, maybe I was stuck and shouting for my life and no one can hear due to the running engine

the grievance I made during the disciplinary hearing I am now on final warning.

Anyway I can use the above to maneuver out of my next disciplinary?
As the grievance is flawed so could be the disciplinary, but it’s clear that more effort went into the disciplinary then my grievance.

what do you guys think, what are my options?
I been looking for a new job since the ramp incident but then lock down happened and most garages are seeing a drop in business so I need to keep this job until I find a new one
 
Firstly have they followed correct procedures?

Did they send you invitations to these meetings and advise you before hand what they were for. Secondly did they allow/offer you to invite in another person to sit in the meeting?

If you feel they are looking for anything and everything to use as ammo against you then make sure to keep a detailed log of your works and any further interactions between yourself and them on the side of punishments ect make sure to record those sessions as they have gotten many people out of a pinch in bad times. myself included when a PR woman who hated me stopped a recording at the end of my disciplinary and fully admitted she hated me and was doing everything she could do to get rid of me..... unbeknown to her i was recording the whole thing on my phone. She doesn't have a job anymore as those types of rolls need to be completely unbiased and neutral.

Is this a big or small company you work for? the smaller ones often don't realise that they still need to follow procedures correctly regarding this type of stuff.
 
Firstly have they followed correct procedures?

Did they send you invitations to these meetings and advise you before hand what they were for. Secondly did they allow/offer you to invite in another person to sit in the meeting?

If you feel they are looking for anything and everything to use as ammo against you then make sure to keep a detailed log of your works and any further interactions between yourself and them on the side of punishments ect make sure to record those sessions as they have gotten many people out of a pinch in bad times. myself included when a PR woman who hated me stopped a recording at the end of my disciplinary and fully admitted she hated me and was doing everything she could do to get rid of me..... unbeknown to her i was recording the whole thing on my phone. She doesn't have a job anymore as those types of rolls need to be completely unbiased and neutral.

Is this a big or small company you work for? the smaller ones often don't realise that they still need to follow procedures correctly regarding this type of stuff.
Is a medium sized chain with depots in a few city have followed correct procedure up to how they have used the evidence.

I have though about recording the whole day but i can’t find any recording device that can handle a 10hr day. I can get a notepad and write interactions down but manager could argue that I have made it up, which is what I’m saying about his written statement.
 
Its hard when a company wants to be rid of you , i was a cnc programmer on nights ,stack of drawings (hard copy to dxf to in house cutting software and we couldnt scan them in all drawn in cad from scratch ) ,turn them into parts ,go home 4 hours early sometimes or 30 mins other times but this was ok with the bosses ,then we were taken over ,new bosses saw the alarm setting logs and boom. gross dismissal to the night shift ,but they also got rid of day shift managers and put there own in ,and never started another night shift ,they just wanted rid
if you do get dismissed go to arbitration ,they will try and get you a lump sum in return for not bringing an unfair dismissal case ,this is what we did ,and get every scrap of evidence to back yourself up

edit /acas for the arbitration
 
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Halfords ?If so take it further, Opps Manager would be your next port of call, if you are in a union get a rep to advise you.
 
I can't quite make it out, but are they saying that you raising a grievance yourself and them deciding it didn't warrant an action they have considered as an actionable disciplinary matter against you?

Because pretty sure that is not acceptable. They're not allowed to punish you for raising an issue just because they disagree.
 
Some companies love to dish out warnings for petty things and eventually sack people, but then end up getting dragged to court for unfair dismissal. You can't sack someone for making a couple of genuine mistakes.

One company I worked for years ago were a bit like that, then everyone unionised and the union tore them a new one.
 
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Why do people want to stay working for a crap employer that has no respect for its employees?

Because getting paid a wage is better than being on the dole. It's necessity sometimes and sadly some people have never experienced this and think jobs are something to be thrown away willy nilly because they are in a situation where they can afford that.
 
Why do people want to stay working for a crap employer that has no respect for its employees?
as an older guy (not that old) looking back i agree ,its not worth the impact on mental heath for financial reward ,one of the reasons i am agency now ,can turn down the crap places and acept the nice ones ,like the gin distillery i am working at now
 
Also try getting another job where you have left your previous because of disciplinary. Always best to fight it and get it out the way first then look for new job on your own terms.
 
Also try getting another job where you have left your previous because of disciplinary. Always best to fight it and get it out the way first then look for new job on your own terms.
done that after my gross dismissal ,not a problem they gave me a basic reference ,basically i worked there ,period
 
done that after my gross dismissal ,not a problem they gave me a basic reference ,basically i worked there ,period

Some employers might give jobs out no questions asked, some like to know why you left previous place etc.

I'm not on about getting another job after being dismissed, I'm on about getting another job while you have no job because you left during a disciplinary investigation.
 
Some employers might give jobs out no questions asked, some like to know why you left previous place etc.

I'm not on about getting another job after being dismissed, I'm on about getting another job while you have no job because you left during a disciplinary investigation.
ah ok fair enough i need to wait until the haze induced by red wine lets me reply coherently ;)
 
Maybe contact the HSE to get them investigated?

https://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/index...tm_campaign=riddor&utm_content=home-page-info

RIDDOR - Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 2013
RIDDOR puts duties on employers, the self-employed and people in control of work premises (the Responsible Person) to report certain serious workplace accidents, occupational diseases and specified dangerous occurrences (near misses).

Who should report?
The responsible person

What must be reported?
The list of dangerous occurrences in Schedule 2 of RIDDOR is designed to obtain information primarily about incidents with a high potential to cause death or serious injury, but which happen relatively infrequently. Collecting the information allows the enforcing authorities to learn about the circumstances and their causes. This provides valuable information which both regulators and business can use to help prevent accidents.

For clarity, the guidance below includes relevant extracts from the Schedule requirements in bold.

Several types of dangerous occurrence require reporting in circumstances where the incident has the potential to cause injury or death. This assessment does not require any complex analysis, measurement or tests, but rather for a reasonable judgement to be made as to whether the circumstances gave rise to a real, rather then notional, risk. Such judgement allows for prompt reporting, and ensures that valuable information is not lost.

Schedule 2 lists three kinds of reportable dangerous occurrence:

1. General (incidents occurring at any workplace)
These dangerous occurrences apply to all workplaces and include incidents involving, lifting equipment, pressure systems, overhead electric lines, electrical incidents causing explosion or fire, explosions, biological agents, radiation generators and radiography, breathing apparatus, diving operations, collapse of scaffolding, train collisions, wells and pipelines or pipeline works.
 
You don't need to get your new dream job to leave a job that is making you spend your time posting on a forum to ask how to avoid being managed out, just get a job literally anywhere and then start looking for a good job.
 
You don't need to get your new dream job to leave a job that is making you spend your time posting on a forum to ask how to avoid being managed out, just get a job literally anywhere and then start looking for a good job.


This.

sounds like a crap company OP, life’s too short to have to deal with this, get out quick.
 
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