How fast should an EK9 Type R be?

AmDaMan

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Reason I ask is because in a straight line my car is quicker than his by about 2-3 car lenghs by 100mph.

I was looking at some specs yesterday and it says 0-60 in 5.7 and it has 185BHP ?? Surely that's not right for the a 1.6? Plus i'm quite sure my little 172 isn't sub 6 ha ha (i think it's a good one though as now it's decatted my mates VXR only passes me after 100, before the decat it was 70)

When I was in it it felt quick but the lack of torque is noticable, it just seems to get a lot faster but doesn't feel it. Also it's spins the wheels slightly right until 3rd on gearchange:eek: I think that's why they put an LSD on it :D(Cusco).

Also whats that fluttering noise when it's high into VTEC? It sounds immense when you're outside of the car and it's not the limiter.
 
Both the 0-60 and power output are right, VTEC makes for high specific output engines. It's also short geared which makes the acceleration better. 0-100mph would probably favour the clio as you've found though.
 
The 5.7s 0-60 is cobblers, but the myth is fully entrenched on the internet ;)

It's the same weight as a DC2 and has less power, it is not 0.5s faster to 60, in fact it's basically identical in outright performance, so expect about 6.5s in the real world.

It really needs the performance wringing out of it though so you're mate had better make sure he's well into the redline before every gear change :D Spinning the wheels, except maybe a little at launch, won't help either but it does show that the miracle of torque at the wheels vs torque at the crank when you have a gearbox ;)
 
g0th2000 said:
The 5.7s 0-60 is cobblers, but the myth is fully entrenched on the internet ;))
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I believe it was Autocar who got that time out of it when first released.

Any fwd is capable of a sub 6second 0-60. They just need the power and more importantly a decent LSD.
 
Well it was a rolling start in 1st at about 10mph to make it a bit fairer. He also had a go against my mates cammed and tuned VTS and the VTS wasn't far behind, about a cars length to 100 (The VTS was closing the gap by 80ish too)

The handling is very good on it though none of us could really catch it in the twisties and yes he drives very hard I think he mentioned 9k LOL.

So what's the fluttering noise?
 
my civic sounded pretty crazy when the vtec solenoid was clogged and it was cutting in and out of vtec....

kind of like.....mmmmmBAAHHHMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmBAAAHHHMM....mmmmmBAAHHHm


lol
 
Not sure the book times of the 0-100, i don't have any accurate timing equipment either but I might persuade him to get one of those timing meter things as i'm quite interested.

gursan, not sure if it's the same, it's kind of like a pre limiter noise before it his the real limiter and at 9000+ RPM it sounds unreal, i'll try and get a few vids next time i'm in it. Another thing, that drinks some serious petrol when driving hard!
 
Show me the Honda material that quotes that?

There is talk of that spec having the EK9 intake came with 3 degrees more duration, although I doubt changes were after higher peak power and probably in the pursuit of midrange torque.
 
I don't know of any direct honda specifications....but I'm sure they can be found. From all the Honda forums I have attended it's general knowledge that 96-98 ITR cams have less intake duration than the 99-01 cams, which are identical to the EK9 profile.

Also, I'm from the states and 96-98 spec cams always sell for less than the jdm 99-00 sets.
 
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gurusan said:
Also, I'm from the states and 96-98 spec cams always sell for less than the jdm 99-01 sets.
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We've all seen the state of JDM y0 and the huge markups present in the states, so lets not use that as a reason than the cams make a significant difference to engine output when there not. I imagine those CTR cams are in the Type RX DC2's.
 
I'm positive the 99-01 ITRs did have CTR spec cams...whether the 3 degrees duration makes a significant difference and whether the JDM y0 factor is the only reason for a price-markup are different stories. I realize it's fishy that I can't come up with any proof for this but I'll come across it at some point :p

I never understood the jdm craze...if you look on ebay there are JDM cup holders and jdm dash consoles being sold for ridiculous amounts of money.

...and I won't even begin to talk about stupid kids who convert their cars to RHD for jdm bling factor
 
also if you look up the part numbers for each year you will see that they change.

2000 ITR intake cam Honda part number: 14111-P73-J01

1997 ITR intake cam Honda part number: 14111-P73-J00
 
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Simon said:
I believe it was Autocar who got that time out of it when first released.

Any fwd is capable of a sub 6second 0-60. They just need the power and more importantly a decent LSD.
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From my understanding, doesn't an LSD have a limited application in a straight line? I suppose it prevents a small amount of slippage turning in to a total spinathon...

I'm not a big fan of magazine stats. I've seen figures for the same car vary by amounts that make trifling over anything more than "around 6" or "around 7" seconds completely pointless :\
 
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