How I kept calm I'm not sure...

[DRZ]

What a shame EP3 CTRs are now cheap enough that braindead fools can buy them

Some digging shows that this guy only bought that car on the 11th December. My guess is that with driving like that either he or the car won't be on the roads for much longer.

In retrospect, I could have changed to 2nd instead of 3rd. I'm not convinced that would have made a massive difference to the outcome though. Also, I probably could have got on the power faster and maybe a little earlier but I was being as cautious regarding oncoming traffic as absolutely possible. I know the road very well.

Also, thinking about it now, a CTR on a nice road doing 40mph is probably just out to bait people into this situation. ****.

 

[DRZ]

That was pretty childish and dangerous. Shame such people like this continue to survive.

However! Dayummm your car is rattly!

Yeah, that squeak started that evening and has now been resolved

There are a couple of other rattles that will resolve themselves when I have finished the rest of the gauges and stuff to go in. The rest of the rattling is the camera itself, sadly.

 

[DRZ]

So you got suckered into trying to overtake someone who was out trolling people, and his car turned out to be able to out accelerate yours.

So then you came to whine about it on the Internet.

Have i missed anything?

Yeah, the bit where accelerating whilst being overtaken is a massively stupid thing to do and is almost certainly Dangerous Driving, as is taking a pretty blind bend on the wrong side of the road?

Also, the CTR's bonnet was roughly level with my boot when I shifted to 4th, thought better of being in this situation and extricated myself from it. He wasn't out accelerating me, I just wasn't passing him quickly enough.

If you think what the CTR did was in any way acceptable then you need to rethink your attitude towards driving.

 

[DRZ]

No my headlights are suitable enough. I only find myself ever needing high beams when I don't know a road very well.

I do everything possible to cast as much light as possible down the road where it is safe to do so.

If I could, I'd have stadium lighting hooked up to the front of my cars. You can NEVER have enough light.

 

[DRZ]

You would spot a person in the dark on a straight road at maybe 20-30 metres with dipped beams. With main beams you'd see them way further down the road.

All you're doing here is showing that you don't often drive down country roads at night because you seem woefully unaware of the potential hazards (and thus the requirement for good lighting!).

Also, wtf at you having to concentrate on the lights? It is a stalk - you move it forward/back to operate the main beams. It isn't a complicated feature to use as it has been specifically designed to be as easy to operate as possible for exactly that reason!

Perhaps it is you that should hang up your keys?

 

[DRZ]

Mind if I post this up on the Civic Type R Forum? I'm sure the majority of users on their will berate the silly little ****.

Someone else beat you to it. I've not got a CTRO login but there was aparrently a 9 page thread over there saying it was me that was in the wrong for trying to overtake a CTR. I think CTRO was the source of the inane comments on YouTube.

Type-R Owners was a lot more on the side of reason, the thread there is a mere 7 pages and almost entirely full of condemnation/glad to be rid of their EP3 so they aren't tarred with the same brush as plebs like this.

 

[DRZ]

Not really,

There are too many drivers out there that forget to turn their high beams off, and I have lost count the amount of times I have been dazzled by oncoming drivers. This IMO is far more dangerours as for that moment in time, my vision is completely screwed, and is also screwed for a few seconds after the car has passed while my eyes adjust back to the low light conditions.

Therefore, if it's a road I know well enough. I see no need to keep flicking the high beam on and off. Don't think anyone in here can garauntee they never fail to turn off their high beams. Unless you have a log book of every time you have flicked them on, with a camera showing the car coming past is not blinded.

I just... just... what? I don't even...

Are you for real? You don't use your high beams because other road users occasionally don't turn them off?

Here's a tip - in the early part of the video above you will see what to do with your main beams when a car is approaching you. Note the fact that my main beams were off a good chunk before you could see the car - this was because I spotted the hedge was being illuminated before I could see the car. You don't need line of sight to see if another car is approaching you, there is an absolute wealth of information coming your way long before you can actually see the car.

You even get clues through the hedges.

 

[DRZ]

You stated you know the road well but still used your high beams a lot. This let to my opinion you don't.

Define "knowing the road well"?

I can basically do a running commentary of every single fixed hazard on that road while driving along it at a clip. I know every camber change and probably every bump/undulation that matters. Why? Because I drive that road a lot. Like, every time I go out in the car for a fun drive, I probably end up on that road.

I've driven that road in every single car I have ever owned and been a passenger down there in countless others when friends have come over to show me a new car or whatever.

In all, I have about a decade of experience of driving that road and attacking it a damn sight harder than I did in that video.

Still think my main beam use was down to not knowing the road?

 

[DRZ]

Fair points. I'm not used to driving anything that can pull the skin off a rice pudding I guess.

But still, when out for a hoon (which I assume you were because you were filming?) I would definitely go for "maximum attack mode"

If I was out for a hoon I'd not be able to post up the video I was out to capture the noise the SC was making because I was asked by a guy over on the MX5Nutz forum. I didn't want to banzai it as I've not long completed the build and don't want to blow it up if there are still some snags. The map is also far from optimal and obviously WOT in 2nd at the top of the rev range is a fair chunk more stress on everything than WOT in 3rd around the middle of the rev range.

 

[DRZ]

Yeah, that was almost WOT (90%, going to WOT requires almost a kickdown-like push) through 1st and 2nd but short shifting like a granny.

Sounds good though, doesn't it

Watching that bit of the video again reminded me of just how slow he turned off the main road. ****.

 

[DRZ]

The guy in the CTR was clearly goading you as can be seen from the final right turn. What sort of speeds were you doing when you went for the overtake?

Under 40, not sure exactly how much under 40 though.

 

[DRZ]

if this happened to me, even if i was even slighly ahead of him i'd start to move back into the inside lane, people dont normally like this but thats what you get for speeding up while i try and over take..

as for using high beam, i use it as much as possible to see further down the road, because i dont like hitting pot holes, animals, stuff like that..

if i knew ross was standing in the middle of the road at night though, i'd probably turn them off..

I knew someone would post this eventually.

Why anyone does this is beyond me. At best, you're making an already hazardous situation even worse. At worst, you're going to cause an accident at speed which is the last thing you want to do on a tree-lined public road.

If you do get in front, you've got someone with no regard for your safety chomping at the bit to replenish their ego and they are probably a bit annoyed at you for 'cutting them up'.

If you crash and everyone ends up seriously injured then chances are you're going to have a fair chunk of the blame apportioned to you even though you wouldn't have been in that situation had they not sped up.

I appreciate that in the heat of the moment everyone reacts differently but I'd personally always try to go for the action that is the least likely to result in Bad Stuff(tm) happening to me.

 

[DRZ]

i see your point but its always more fun if you can get in front because at that point you're in controle, if they try and over take you can then move over to stop them in their tracks, this really ****s them off

Your standards of driving, if they are as your claim, are as shockingly poor as the guy featured in the video I posted.

Moving over to block someone that tries to overtake you, regardless of any "previous", is so massively retarded I'm struggling to know how to respond to you.

 

[DRZ]

i wouldnt take everything you read on the internet seriously DRZ

So then why are you in my thread posting made up crap? There is a topic, either your posts are relevant to the thread or they aren't. This isn't a storytelling thread.

I actually think you probably just realised that you drive like a massive ******* and are now looking for a way out.

 

[DRZ]

How do you know? You cant see his speedometer.

It isn't even relevant. The CTR sped up, I accelerated to as fast as was safe for the conditions and then aborted the overtake. I wouldn't have had to do that had he not sped up. The guy who posted that clearly doesn't overtake many people

 

[DRZ]

We are discussing using full beam when there is no oncoming traffic. Are you saying you shouldn't do this? I don't quite understand the point you are making.

I think he drives along all the time with main beams on regardless of oncoming traffic and is confused as to why he's getting flashed.

Very odd.

 

[DRZ]

Anyone using high beam when there is oncoming traffic is just as cretinous as those who don't use high beam when there is none!

Couldn't agree more!

I am astounded that there are people that avoid using main beams whenever it is safe to do so. It is almost impossible to safely drive an unlit lane at night without them!

 

[DRZ]

to keep it brief, there's idiots out on the road who are opportunist. op was in wrong place, wrong time, driving an rx down a b road rapidly and perhaps not as carefully as he may have done on other occassions (see highway code post from milanochris). civic driver lured him in. nobody died.

You perhaps need to brush up on the difference between DO NOT and MUST NOT in the Highway Code. Overtaking past a junction is 'risky' and obviously advised against but not illegal. Had the civic not sped up I'd have been back in before that junction anyway.

 

[DRZ]

driving since 1997, zero points and in an area full of B roads, i'd rather just keep driving risk free.

Riiiight. So just in case someone with no brain decides to block you when overtaking, you'll just sit there and do nothing? That's fine and entirely your decision (probably based on you having a car that prevents you from overtaking safely) but it is a bit irrational to apply that to everyone.

The only reason I was still overtaking when passing that junction was due to the actions of the CTR. A car travelling at a steady speed requires almost no time at all to pass.

This thread is a source of continual amazement for me.

P.S. What is an 'rx'? I was in an MX-5 and one that looks so close to standard from the outside that you'd be hard pressed to know it was anything different to a normal MX-5 - especially at night!

 

[DRZ]

My account on there hasn't been activated. I've not seen the thread but from the sounds of it, it would just make me annoyed