If they were a legitimate business, they'd develop where the market is.
30m PS'3 and 40m Xbox 360's is where the monies at.
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If they were a legitimate business, they'd develop where the market is.
30m PS'3 and 40m Xbox 360's is where the monies at.
Because there will always be (imo) hardcore gamers that will refuse to move over to the console entirely, but big developers will, at some point, stop.
I'm not saying that PC gaming will be as strong as it always has, I just don't think dieing is entirely the right word for it, seems a bit strong.
I'm on your side though mate, lol.
Atari ST.
The PC existed as a platform at the sametime.
Yet the first FPS was designed for a system, that was created by a company who made their fame through console systems.
Just pointing out that you can't go banding about that PCs have some kind of god given right to the FPS genre. The genre has grown and developed itself through various platforms, to claim it belongs to one platform is ludicrous.
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What I find interesting is that two devices that we're originally designed for general computer use are actually better than a devise purpose built for gaming.
Why don't they release an official xbox mouse and keyboard and let people choose. If the gamepads are that **** it will be a must have accessory.
Why don't they release an official xbox mouse and keyboard and let people choose. If the gamepads are that **** it will be a must have accessory.
yes, because the pc is easier and cheaper to develop for, and can be done without a major publisher being heavily involved.
It will always be the place new companies start out and make their name with the game they wanted to make, before they get bought up and peddle the crappy consolified grey, safe, middle of the road stuff.
Because it destroys what myself and many others love about consoles; a level playing field where you can sit back on a sofa and game in your living room. If you had a choice that choice would be, play with a pad and relax or get a table, sit up and compete. The pad players might as well not bother playing online.
They tried giving gamers a choice with Unreal Tournament 3 on the PS3, it was a disaster with a fractured community due to half playing with pads and half with kb+mouse.
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Just to fan the flames a bit:
Consoles = Shop at Lidls and Aldi. Live in council estates.
PC = Shop at M&S, waitrose and Sainsburys. Live in private accommodation.
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name one such company that has done this in the last few years.
I cant think of any amazing PC exclusives that have come out that havent come from the big development houses - Valve, Westwood, blizzard etc...
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This thread is hillarious, some of the PC fanboys have given me a right ol chuckle
Consoles are far better for gaming, PC's may have a technically better input system for FPS games but consoles do gaming vastly better and anyone thinking different is clinically insane !
I used to be a heavy PC gamer esp in the CS days (not that source rubbish) but i always had consoles too and in the end i just gave up PC gaming as it is a very unscocial experience and gaming on a console is more fun and involving.
But cheers for the lols pc fanboy loons, god i hope i wasnt like that when i was a pR0 1337 pc Gaymer !
Consoles are far better for gaming, PC's may have a technically better input system for FPS games but consoles do gaming vastly better and anyone thinking different is clinically insane !
I used to be a heavy PC gamer esp in the CS days (not that source rubbish) but i always had consoles too and in the end i just gave up PC gaming as it is a very unscocial experience and gaming on a console is more fun and involving.
But cheers for the lols pc fanboy loons, god i hope i wasnt like that when i was a pR0 1337 pc Gaymer !
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Firstly, I hate arguments about realism. Realism =/= fun... Look at TF2 compared to America's Army or ARMA or any FPS which is apparently more "realistic"... Popular FPS clearly place fun above realism, and are right to do so.
Secondly, with a high sensitivity, console gamers can easily turn 360 degrees in half a second... Probably easier than me
I think differently and I am not clinically insane, so you are wrong. What can a console do which a PC can't? Nothing.
So why exactly is source rubbish, and CS not? CS was more competitive, whereas Source is for the wider audience... Source has more in common with console gaming than 1.6.
He is talking about immursion, not realism.
GSC?
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I am heavily into cs source and mouse and keyboard make it damn interesting and provide fluid movement. I can imagine using a joystick pad in the game and getting 50 deaths for 0 kills lol . I won't be able to pinpoint fast enough to shoot the opponent rather my pinpoint would go way off the mark.
. I won't be able to pinpoint fast enough to shoot the opponent rather my pinpoint would go way off the mark.
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PCs = Intelligent people who know how to set up a computer and troubleshoot issues.
Consoles = Everyone else who can't fix their red-rings etc...
*cough* Console fanboy! *cough*
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How many times do you get 4 people sat around a pc playing Rockband or Wii sports type games ???
Consoles do sports games better, platform games better, music games better, social gaming games better (DDR, Rockband, Singstar etc etc) the list goes on.
PC's have a place but they are not gaming machines and therefor a niche market and appeal to a vastly smaller demographic offering a much more limited range of games.
No fact reporter, easy mistake pc fanboy
how many ex PC gamers have you got in here that now mainly console games ?
Its not as simple as that, many PC gamers simply cant be bothered spending £1000s of pounds continually upgrading their pc to console ports.
They are now leaving their PCs at the same spec, and mostly playing consoles instead. They still know how to set up a computer,as they've still get their old one !
Theres quite a few of us in this thread in exactly that situation (myself included, except i swapped my PC for a quadcore imac)
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Very true, i am an ex PC gamer - i upgraded every 6 months and only had a pc for games - dualie powermac G5 for other stuff, if the word wasnt so horrific i would say i was a 'hardcore' pc gamer
Now i use a MBP and there are no desktops in this house (well Daughter has an imac) just laptops and consoles for games - im not even all that into gaming these days as work, family and cars are my main interests !
Shimmyhill, all of your points smack of inarticulate fanboy mouth-frothing. Short of some serious psychological trauma, I simply can't understand how you developed such antagonistic affront at the PC being even an equivalent gaming platform, let alone superior. It makes me think you were one of those Dreamcast quake 3 players that came off on the bad side of people cracking the .wad files to let PC gamers access DC online games.
I play fps games on console and PC, I don't find either to be much better than the other, well except for graphics where PC obviously wins. For online gaming it's a completely different play-style using a pad, you corner differently and orientate yourself differently to gain an aiming advantage because you can't pinpoint aim in a split-second like you can with a mouse, I tend to move more tactically and be more aware of my surroundings which I don't bother with as much on PC as I can play a more fast and loose style. Playing an online FPS with a pad is a totally different ball-park to using M+KB and it's usually not even fair in the slightest to compare the two or pit the players against each other as the mouse provides such an advantage in aiming speed and tracking.
One of thing that does annoys me on single player games with consoles is the aim assist, I always turn this off but in some console games even with aim assist off and the game on the highest difficulty it still tries to sneakily add little twitches of aim assist in to the game which is often more of a hindrance than a help.
With online gaming on Pc you can get a bit of an advantage by having the best equipment possible which isn't as much of an issue with consoles - allthough having a big screen helps. As far as M+KB being superior in every way, i'd have to disagree as I like to play leaning back with my feet up - so I use a pad for any single player PC game it's more confortable for me as i can sit side on to the screen if i want and put my feet up. I've never had a problem completing a single player game using only a pad (and I don't play through on 'easy' mode).
It's all horses for courses really, some people feel that liking one type of music means they have to **** off every other type of music at every opportunity, it seems to be the same with game platforms.
One of thing that does annoys me on single player games with consoles is the aim assist, I always turn this off but in some console games even with aim assist off and the game on the highest difficulty it still tries to sneakily add little twitches of aim assist in to the game which is often more of a hindrance than a help.
With online gaming on Pc you can get a bit of an advantage by having the best equipment possible which isn't as much of an issue with consoles - allthough having a big screen helps. As far as M+KB being superior in every way, i'd have to disagree as I like to play leaning back with my feet up - so I use a pad for any single player PC game it's more confortable for me as i can sit side on to the screen if i want and put my feet up. I've never had a problem completing a single player game using only a pad (and I don't play through on 'easy' mode).
It's all horses for courses really, some people feel that liking one type of music means they have to **** off every other type of music at every opportunity, it seems to be the same with game platforms.