How much fluid do I need? Also, Mayhems, or water?

[Mayhems]

Oh so it was you!
I remember reading that at XS. Good on you for doing that. But did you do any tests with it to see if it is "all silver"?
I was in a lengthy email conversation with the manufacturer and the reseller till last week. Manufacturer is saying it is because of the "deposition from any molecules in the loop" and "rougher patches may even be from eroding of the silver"
How ever they are sending me a replacement. i didn't even asked for a replacement just wanted an explanation.

to be honest it not for me to say what it is but ive sold over 600 coils and never once has it discolour , rusted or done any thing else except look silver. It all so could be the fact that i lemon treated all ours (acid) to make sure they were clean before being sent out. Even on the add we used to put have you ever squeezed 100 lemons !!!

But because they under cut us so much i stopped making them as it wasn't worth my time or effort.

The price they were re-selling them for was less than what i was paying for just the silver , never mind the bottle , stickers and time lol.

 

[JonJ678]

Till you get a leak and fry all your hardware.

The vinegar is potentially an issue if it leaked, the idea would be to use roughly enough to soften the astonishingly hard water of Bath. I've had deionised water, part diluted with old feser 1 and vinegar, run down a motherboard and over a graphics card for half an hour or so before I noticed. No apparent issues, the conformal coating seemed to be sufficient. There's a guy on here using a beer chiller to cool a loop, and just lets ice build up on the graphics card. As far as I know that didn't cause any problems either.

have I really just read that?

Yep

Tap water will eventually cause fouling in the water blocks, but on the basis that all the minerals in solution in the tap water are in solution, most of them should stay in solution. Solubility improves with heat too. Worst case scenario is I end up pumping dilute vinegar around the loop for a while to get rid of the limescale.

 

[Bubo]

Vinegar in a loop long term must surely be a bad idea, even dilute. Your rad will most definately not like it. Green water is what you'll end up with and eventual rad leakage surely?

Regarding tap water itself, I don't see the hardness as an issue as you only get scale build up of kettle style proportions if you are repeatedly adding fresh water to a systemm, which is unlikely in a water cooling loop. Still, given the cheapness of DI there is no real reason not to use that in stead, other than curiosity.

 

[rjk]

i see where you are coming from

however my argument remains that the £150 worth of radiators and £200 worth of blocks in my rig wouldnt be worth risking

for the sake of spending 99p on a litre of distilled or a few quid more on a coolant from mayhems etc. why risk any kind of adverse reaction on your expensive hardware?

 

[JonJ678]

I *think* the issue with acetic acid and copper is that the acid dissolves oxides. Any surface oxidation present would dissolve off, and then the clean surface would gradually oxidise again if there is oxygen dissolved in the water. This then dissolves, but in more continuous fashion. Reaction stops when all the acetic acid has evaporated. I was thinking more in terms of balancing the carbonate in the water with the vinegar, so as to remove the fouling. After reading the above posts, I'm inclined to think water and a small amount of vinegar, then boiled to drive off any unreacted acetic acid, would probably work.

Just looking for alternatives guys, not seriously suggesting that tap water + vinegar is a better choice than deionised. I have problems with curiousity

 

[rjk]

I have problems with curiousity

we know.

how is your watercooled PSU Jon?

 

[JonJ678]

Ah, you missed that? In one word, it rusted. In a few more, see here. The power supply itself is soldiering on entirely unhurt, as is the pump that tried to force water through a blocked pipe for a month or so. I won't be repeating the experiment anytime soon.

 

[Krony]

keep us informed and would be nice to see pics

Well got some UV lighting in and for some reason the coolant just won't glow lol, the tubing is Primochill UV red, i have a 120cm Phobya UV LED strip and there is a couple of UV LED's in the res too, does UV coolant go off with age or was i just unlucky to get a bad batch ?
Here is a bad quality pic:

 

[Mayhems]

No we have had a couple of customer say that its doesn't glow as much as expected. We don't put to much UV pink in our mixes as this is what stains the most and weve gone for quality of the fluid over all the most. How ever were looking into increasing the UV pink in the red so that we can keep evey one happy.

If you send me a email linked on the side here ill ship you out some extra UV pink so that you may increase the glow more.

mick

 

[Krony]

Thx and PM sent.

 

[Mayhems]

np replied