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How to optimally configure Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs

gerardfraser said:
Op is wrong,but I see you keep posting the 1usmus power plan and it is great for browsing and cinebench ,but did you ever actually test gaming performance on this powerplan compared to any other powerplan.
Lets say an old game like Sleeping dogs because no one can test every game.

1usmus power plan consistently loses say 10FPS in gaming compared to other powerplans from my testing.I would post a bunch of test ,no point though.
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I only test gaming and for 1usmus to work needs XFR ON and PBO OFF.

WOT is old game no? X4? ESO? Cannot go more CPU heavy games, where the "preferred" cores are at constant 100% load for hours and stuck at 4550-4650 clocks.

The profile actually works if you follow it to the letter using the v1.1 version and is only for light loads (gaming) not benchmarks.
 
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OK I am not in a ******* contest with you ,Talk to me like a dummy I am.What I said is true and tested from my point of view.I tested 1usmus powerplan and found a lower FPS performance in gaming.

I would love to see a video of your 4550-4650 clocks while gaming on whatever CPU you have.

I can show upto 4650Mhz while gaming on 3800X with PBO on

Well I can show 4700Mhz with OC and I can do higher on CPU,my ciock is big now.
 
I would agree that an all core OC is better for most productivity workloads, gaming on the other hand usually benefits from higher clock speeds which on the higher end ryzen chips can't be achieved by an all core overclock.

The exemption to this would be when your all core OC can hit or get very close too your max boost speed, for example my r5 3600 will do 4.2 all core OC @1.325v which is clearly better than stock which hits 4.2 on single threaded loads but drops as more threads are used.

A r9 3950 on the other hand has a boost of up to 4.7 so a 4.3 all core OC is sacrificing a lot of speed when only a few threads are in use for things like games.
 
I haven't adjusted everything yet but this is what I've altered so far, so kind where I'm at:

CPU
AMD cool & quiet - (enabled)
Global C-state control - (enabled)
Power supply idle control - (low current idle)
CPPC - (enabled)
CPPC preferred cores - (enabled)
PPC adjustment - (Pstate 0)

Memory
increased ram voltage - (currently running at 1.360v / 1900 mhz)
Power down executable - (disabled)
Geardown (XMP) - (disabled)

A while back, I did run the Taiphoon Burner and Ryzen DRAM Calculator but I need to redo those things again.
 
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arc@css said:
I haven't adjusted everything yet but this is what I've altered so far, so kind where I'm at:

CPU
AMD cool & quiet - (enabled)
Global C-state control - (enabled)
Power supply idle control - (low current idle)
CPPC - (enabled)
CPPC preferred cores - (enabled)
PPC adjustment - (Pstate 0)

Memory
increased ram voltage - (currently running at 1.360v / 1900 mhz)
Power down executable - (disabled)
Geardown (XMP) - (disabled)

A while back, I did run the Taiphoon Burner and Ryzen DRAM Calculator but I need to redo those things again.
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Give a try to the XFR part of the bios and activate everything, but keep PBO off on the PBO part of the BIOS for the 1usmus to work properly :)

Gigabyte has similar BIOS wording to Asrock and correct me if wrong but Gigabyte has PBO settings on 3 different places, which is confusing.
 
Well if these CPU's can't hold more than 1.3v without dying and only last month's then my CPU must be a ghost. It was running a constant 1.488v for months and months until I put the newer beta bios on. Strangely the clock speeds went up too as it will now do 4675 on 3 cores and 4650 on another 3 on the first ccx.
 
Panos said:
Give a try to the XFR part of the bios and activate everything, but keep PBO off on the PBO part of the BIOS for the 1usmus to work properly :)

Gigabyte has similar BIOS wording to Asrock and correct me if wrong but Gigabyte has PBO settings on 3 different places, which is confusing.
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Where is XFR in bios cant seem to find it anywhere have followed All the steps disabled PBO etc B450 pro carbon
 
Kevin Matthews said:
Where is XFR in bios cant seem to find it anywhere have followed All the steps disabled PBO etc B450 pro carbon
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On the Taichi is at least at
Advanced\AMD CBS\NBIO Common Options\XFR Enhancement\

Given that most bios' have same paths find the NBIO on the MSI one. I have set
Set Precision Boost Override Manual (nothing to do with the other PBO)
PPT Limit 999
TDC Limit 999
EDC Limit 999
Overdrive Scalar - Manual
customized - 5x

Currently using Community Plan v3 which works with XFR (with the settings above) and normal PBO left to Auto.

Give a try :)
https://www.computerbase.de/2019-11/amd-ryzen-3000-250-mhz-energiesparplan-1usmus/
 
I've spent virtually the entire afternoon playing with my 3900x. In light of some evidence that running 1.325v may not actually be safe, plus some other comments about an all-core OC not being hugely beneficial in lightly threaded and gaming workloads, I decided to have a proper play with PBO/XFR and any other tricks.

I started off back to bone stock default BIOS, in CBr20 getting an all-core boost of around 4.05-4.1Ghz. Single core boost in general usage was hitting ~4.48Ghz on 2 cores maximum. I played with all the settings, tried PBO at motherboard limits, all different voltage offsets and nothing really made a big difference. I was finding that under load the CPU was hitting the EDC limit, but if I raised that limit it wouldn't push any further and in most cases I was losing performance.

I came across this thread and the latest 1usmus power plan above, so decided to grab that, download the latest chipset drivers and Windows 1909 version. Back to default BIOS with the updates and now getting approx 4.175 all-core in CBr20, seeing 4 or 5 cores hitting about 4591mhz on boost which is a huge improvement.

Having played some Battlefield 1 which uses quite a lot of cores, seeing the peak CPU frequency hover around 4275-4400mhz, and I am now running XPlane11 which uses 6-8 cores and that's hovering around the same sort of frequencies.

Overall, I've lost a lot of benchmarking points, but in games it's not a noticeable difference, and I feel a little safer not having my CPU life potentially shortened by an OC.
 
The original poster is a complete quack. What load of nonsense. The maximum safe voltage is 1.5v, this has been confirmed by AMD. I frequent the AMD discord on a daily basis and I have talked to AMD reps there.

Do not listen to this guy. He does not know better than the developers of this cpu.
 
Saltcreek said:
The original poster is a complete quack. What load of nonsense. The maximum safe voltage is 1.5v, this has been confirmed by AMD. I frequent the AMD discord on a daily basis and I have talked to AMD reps there.

Do not listen to this guy. He does not know better than the developers of this cpu.
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1.5v under light load is different to 1.325v under heavy load though, it's all about the amount of current being drawn, which is what can degrade the CPU.

All I am saying is, for my usage, stock settings are perfectly fine. Not saying an OC to 4.4+ at 1.325v is unsafe, but it does carry a bit of risk.
 
Sorry I had it the wrong way around and corrected it. You want 300watt, 230amp and 230amp. These numbers come from what Buildzoid said is best in his testing and he is a professional overclocker and all. I know Panos said 999 for everything though, feel free to try both.

gerardfraser said:
Op is wrong,but I see you keep posting the 1usmus power plan and it is great for browsing and cinebench ,but did you ever actually test gaming performance on this powerplan compared to any other powerplan.
Lets say an old game like Sleeping dogs because no one can test every game.

1usmus power plan consistently loses say 10FPS in gaming compared to other powerplans from my testing.I would post a bunch of test ,no point though.
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You are not the first person to bring it up, I've seen quite a people on reddit say don't use 1usmus for gaming
 
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My 3600 is proof that overclocking is beneficial if your silicon allows for it. Been at 4.4GHz all core at 1.275v for many months now with zero stability issues. Why leave performance on the table? On stock settings I am lucky if my CPU hits 4.2GHz and on top uses more power and runs hotter.
 
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TNA said:
My 3600 is proof that overclocking is beneficial if your silicon allows for it. Been at 4.4GHz all core at 1.275v for many months now with zero stability issues. Why leave performance on the table? On stock settings I am lucky if my CPU hits 4.2GHz and on top uses more power and runs hotter.
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Can you share some OC settings? I'm having an hard time with my 3600 on a B450M Motar MAX.

Would love some knowledgeable people to point me in the right direction. :)
 
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