how useful is a computing degree, honestly

Useless, get out while u still can if you want your degree to be related to your field of work. The only reason I'm still doing an IT degree is because I've decided teaching English abroad is a better new career for me and that requires special certs like TEFL so theres no point in changing my degree. I'm going to keep doing this one as I enjoy the subject and it's respected as a degree though not worth as much for IT jobs.

Unless your at a top university your degree will be given no respect whatsoever, if you have a 1st you'll have a little respect but not as much as someone with a years experience.

If your in your first year I suggest you quit now while you still can then get out there and get experience in the field it will be worth a lot more and also much cheaper for you in terms of earning money and not having a huge student debt.

IT right now is quite possibly the worst thing to do a degree in next to joke degrees like Media studies in terms of employer respect!
 
I find the number of people, with (or studying for) a degree, who cannot spell, simply staggering.

Not the odd typo. or the odd word here or there, but the continued (probably malicious) incorrect spelling of common words ("its" vs "it's", "your" vs "you're").

OK, so maybe your degree isn't in English. But as far as I know ALL degrees require one to be literate to some degree in order to produce (or at least cut and past) a reasonable stab at a thesis. And the fact that people are being let loose on the world with a degree, but only a vague grasp of the English language beggars belief.

Degrees are becoming more and more worthless. If you want to know why just take a look at some of the people that are allowed to get them.

:(
 
Saberu said:
Unless your at a top university your degree will be given no respect whatsoever, if you have a 1st you'll have a little respect but not as much as someone with a years experience.
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Is this a serious post?

Do you really think that the majority of employers will value a school leaver with one year's experience more than a graduate?

While it is true that a red brick university may well get more respect than others, I don't believe it to be true to that you will be given no respect whatsoever for a degree from another establishment. The ideal graduate employer will look for a good classification of degree together with any experience to back it up. That's why a placement year is such a good idea IMO.

joeconway said:
it seems to me that all of you lot seem very happy in your decisions whether that be you have a degree or not. But i think the fact still remains that a degrees provides opportunities and although a career is possible without one it is a limited one to a certain degree.

As such I really am going to give this a shot and see if I can try adjust more and settle down with what ive started because theres not much point in limiting myself at this moment in time when i am presented with an opportunity to better myself, one which other people may not get
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Joe, I for one am delighted you've come to this conclusion. I think you're going down a route that maximises your opportunities later on in life.
 
DAVEM said:
I think you being very silly. What I was saying is that someone could spend their entire life researching in mathematics (as you would care to define it) without publishing an article on the matter. Whether it be in pure maths in number theory or applied maths on differential equations, you do not have to publish anything to be a mathematician!
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It would be completely impossible to hold down a job as a mathematician if you weren't making regular publications! The publications are evidence of the fact you are developing new mathematics and furthering our understanding the subject. Being a mathematician is a profession and it's impossible to get a job in that profession unless you are capable of producing work! What it most certainly isn't, is having happened to do a few maths modules in your degree and be using that knowledge in whatever you currently do! If that was the case, then chemists, engineers, biologists, physicists, accountants, actuaries, economists....... would all be calling themselves "mathematicians".

You're pretty much showing a huge amount of naivety here. Perhaps you'd like to tell us what defining qualities you have, that make you a "mathematician".
 
w11tho and NathanE: you are both correct IMO.

A mathematician will be researching new mathematical findings. Anything new will be able to be published. Sciences, unfortunately works by funding, and the quantity and quality of publications will strongly effect the finances and job prospects.

It is very unlikely you could be a mathematician in a commercial sense. But you could be equally proficient at maths working in industry
 
I did love uni for what it was - which was a laugh and an experiance I'll never forget. The degree was a bonus!

No one here seems to feel that just the experiance of the times had at uni actually better than the benefit that their degree gave them?

Does that make sense?
 
Saberu said:
Useless, get out while u still can if you want your degree to be related to your field of work. The only reason I'm still doing an IT degree is because I've decided teaching English abroad is a better new career for me and that requires special certs like TEFL so theres no point in changing my degree. I'm going to keep doing this one as I enjoy the subject and it's respected as a degree though not worth as much for IT jobs.

Unless your at a top university your degree will be given no respect whatsoever, if you have a 1st you'll have a little respect but not as much as someone with a years experience.

If your in your first year I suggest you quit now while you still can then get out there and get experience in the field it will be worth a lot more and also much cheaper for you in terms of earning money and not having a huge student debt.

IT right now is quite possibly the worst thing to do a degree in next to joke degrees like Media studies in terms of employer respect!
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So, get out while u can, but you are currently doing an IT degree, makes sense... a lot of people are talking about ditching degree's and getting experience, who exactly is going to give you useful experience with basic qualifications?
 
Saberu said:
Useless, get out while u still can if you want your degree to be related to your field of work. The only reason I'm still doing an IT degree is because I've decided teaching English abroad is a better new career for me and that requires special certs like TEFL so theres no point in changing my degree. I'm going to keep doing this one as I enjoy the subject and it's respected as a degree though not worth as much for IT jobs.

Unless your at a top university your degree will be given no respect whatsoever, if you have a 1st you'll have a little respect but not as much as someone with a years experience.

If your in your first year I suggest you quit now while you still can then get out there and get experience in the field it will be worth a lot more and also much cheaper for you in terms of earning money and not having a huge student debt.

IT right now is quite possibly the worst thing to do a degree in next to joke degrees like Media studies in terms of employer respect!
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A degree in "IT" has always been worthless really. If you're going to do a degree at least do a "proper" non-vocational type one. There was a time when even Computer Science was considered a bit vocational but that was probably 20-30 years ago. Nowadays it is up there with Maths and Physics in terms of value. Perhaps not above of those examples though.
 
Try reading/quoting the whole thing "Nowadays it is up there with Maths and Physics in terms of value. Perhaps not above of those examples though."

And yes I'm fairly sure. A lot of job applications to decent jobs will say things like "degree in Maths or Computer Science required" implying the employers value both almost equally.
 
I read it quite clearly. My question remains the same. There was no need to quote the whole thing, as your second part was irrelevent to me. I'm asking if you are sure that Comp Sci is now on a par with Maths and Physics.
 
Slightly off topic (apologies OP) I'm doing a HND in Business Management myself - am hopeful it will lead to better employment prospects for myself, am currently providing tech support for a well know ISP which isn't exactly what I'd call challenging !

My point is there's a lot of people here, either students or qualified with degree's and other qualifications and they like myself have chosen to do said qualification in the hopes it will lead onto better things in life.

It isn't really a case of how useful is X degree? But what are you prepared to apply yourself to do afterward you've gained your qualification?
 
[TW]Fox;10160819 said:
HND? Are you going to 'top up' to a regular degree? Not sure how useful HND's are.
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Yes, thats the hope Foxy - I'll take my qualification as far as i can and see what doors it opens up for me :cool:
 
I love it when degree threads turn it **** throwing competitions. Everyone overtly or subtley defends their subject and / or university.

Comp Sci wins. I earn more now than you'll ever earn, even at your prime......and i've barely begun.

Now clean my shoes peasants. I want them shining by the time I get back. :eek:
 
Vanilla said:
I love it when degree threads turn it **** throwing competitions. Everyone overtly or subtley defends their subject and / or university.

Comp Sci wins. I earn more now than you'll ever earn, even at your prime......and i've barely begun.

Now clean my shoes peasants. I want them shining by the time I get back. :eek:
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Agreed it's just silly. If people can't discuss the thread subject without throwing insults around at people and/or coming across as all high and mighty and arrogant then they aren't welcome. I'm still surprised how "venomous" people can be in these types of threads - it's like all their manners go out the window. For example w11tho seemingly entered the thread all guns blazing and managed to offend a number of people in a single post and then subjectively ignored any questioning pointed his way.
 
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