How well will I be able to run Oblivion with these specs?

FirebarUK · 26 Jul 2006 at 14:07

That won't benefit him at all with an X1600 driving the graphics, that's the bottleneck here not his CPU or RAM.

I mean't aswell as the X1800

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 14:37

FirebarUK said:
I mean't aswell as the X1800

Gotcha', but I don't think that's viable in his situation due to cost. Selling his X1600 could get him a lot of the way to an X1800 if he sold it for the right price.

FirebarUK · 26 Jul 2006 at 14:51

Yeah true

To the OP, surely you could go stretch for the 6300 and the Gigabyte DS3 board? you could always upgrade graphics in the future ... ?

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 15:03

FirebarUK said:
To the OP, surely you could go stretch for the 6300 and the Gigabyte DS3 board? you could always upgrade graphics in the future ... ?

He could do that, but he would gain no benefits from such an upgrade until he got the new graphics card. If he upgraded his graphics first then he would have a huge boost immediately, and if he wanted to upgrade to Conroe later then there would've been lots of price-drops by then (whereas the X1800 has already been in the crazy price-drop phase for ages and probably won't drop much more.)

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 15:04

FirebarUK said:
Yeah true

To the OP, surely you could go stretch for the 6300 and the Gigabyte DS3 board? you could always upgrade graphics in the future ... ?

1) The reason of this thread was not to suggest more upgrades, although I welcome similar/realistic changes.

2) I've already ordered the parts

3) I have onboard graphics at the moment.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 15:08

Kent said:
1) The reason of this thread was not to suggest more upgrades, although I welcome similar/realistic changes.

2) I've already ordered the parts

3) I have onboard graphics at the moment.

I thought that the specs you provided were for an existing rig, my mistake. In your position I would cancel the order (or return it if it's already on the way) and order a socket 939 based system and X1800XT for less cost, but that's just me.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 15:44

Úlfhednar said:
I thought that the specs you provided were for an existing rig, my mistake. In your position I would cancel the order (or return it if it's already on the way) and order a socket 939 based system and X1800XT for less cost, but that's just me.

I was initially going to buy a 3000+ on socket 939, but was turned away from it as it's not future-proof and is slower than AM2.

I am only paying £10 more for the 3800+ on AM2 than what I was going to on the 3000+ on 939. Not much point imo.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:06

Kent said:
I was initially going to buy a 3000+ on socket 939, but was turned away from it as it's not future-proof and is slower than AM2.

I am only paying £10 more for the 3800+ on AM2 than what I was going to on the 3000+ on 939. Not much point imo.

I must be missing something because I am seeing the AM2 Athlon64 3800+ at £82.19 and the 939 Athlon64 3800+ at £78.67 (£58.69 for 3000+) and AM2 offers no performance increase over 939, it just helps standardise DDR2 and allow for technologies such as Pacifica.

That's no real difference, but if your current motherboard supports socket 939 and DDR333/400 memory then it would cut those things out of the equation entirely and make upgrading much cheaper.

I am guessing though that your current hardware does not support socket 939 processors or else you wouldn't be upgrading it.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:16

Úlfhednar said:
I must be missing something because I am seeing the AM2 Athlon64 3800+ at £82.19 and the 939 Athlon64 3800+ at £78.67 (£58.69 for 3000+) and AM2 offers no performance increase over 939, it just helps standardise DDR2 and allow for technologies such as Pacifica.

That's no real difference, but if your current motherboard supports socket 939 and DDR333/400 memory then it would cut those things out of the equation entirely and make upgrading much cheaper.

I am guessing though that your current hardware does not support socket 939 processors or else you wouldn't be upgrading it.

Well what happened was, I got a quote for a shop for the 3500+ for £10 more than the 3000+.

It was two days late being delivered to the shop so they gave me a 3800+ for no extra cost. Thus, I got a 3800+ on AM2 for only £10 more.

And no, my current board only supports socket 754. This is a big upgrade in comparison.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:22

Kent said:
Well what happened was, I got a quote for a shop for the 3500+ for £10 more than the 3000+.

It was two days late being delivered to the shop so they gave me a 3800+ for no extra cost. Thus, I got a 3800+ on AM2 for only £10 more.

Ah, gotcha' so the AM2 3800+ is about £70?

Kent said:
And no, my current board only supports socket 754. This is a big upgrade in comparison.

I am using socket 754 too, see sig.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:27

Úlfhednar said:
Ah, gotcha' so the AM2 3800+ is about £70?

Err something like that, I think it might be closer to £80.

Úlfhednar said:
I am using socket 754 too, see sig.

Lol you're a better man than me then.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:29

Just out of curiosity what CPU do you have now? 3000+?

Kent said:
Lol you're a better man than me then.

LOL, I am just a master at being a cheapskate that's all. Can't complain though I get great bang for buck usually.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:30

Úlfhednar said:
Just out of curiosity what CPU do you have now? 3000+?

LOL, I am just a master at being a cheapskate that's all. Can't complain though I get great bang for buck usually.

I currently have an Intel Celeron D 1.8Ghz.

(Socket 754, obviously)

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:32

Kent said:
I currently have an Intel Celeron D 1.8Ghz.

(Socket 754, obviously)

Not LGA775? :confused:

Either way a 3800+ would be a huge step up, of course.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:35

Úlfhednar said:
Not LGA775? Either way a 3800+ would be a huge step up, of course.

Nope, it is 754. Everything in this comp atm is standard and was bought about 3 years ago, so I brought it upon myself to upgrade it as I wanted to start gaming properly on the PC.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:36

Never heard of Intel processors running on socket 754 so that's news to me.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:37

Úlfhednar said:
Never heard of Intel processors running on socket 754 so that's news to me.

This is an undetailed spec page;

you've already seen it.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:43

Kent said:
This is an undetailed spec page

I don't see any references to socket there, but if you check out this page it has a bunch of Celeron D's listed as LGA775.

A new motherboard would definitely be on the cards then.

You might want to edit out that link though, the dons are pretty strict in regards to posting links to competitors as stated in the FAQ.

Kent · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:46

Úlfhednar said:
I don't see any references to socket there, but if you check out this page it has a bunch of Celeron D's listed as LGA775.

A new motherboard would definitely be on the cards then.

You might want to edit out that link though, the dons are pretty strict in regards to posting links to competitors as stated in the FAQ.

So now do you agree with the parts i'm getting? Or more than you did.

Darkwave · 26 Jul 2006 at 16:52

Kent said:
So now do you agree with the parts i'm getting? Or more than you did.

I never disagreed mate, was just trying to find any way I could to make it cheaper for to upgrade and possibly increase the power at the same time.