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Humble Bundle problem?
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I give money to charity when I can mate normally Cancer research and Chrons research.
Most of the humble bundle games get added to steam never to be played or just played for a few mins then uninstalled I don't mind lol, not even bothered if I add them to steam or give them away/trade them. I've been known to buy multiple bundles as I said above to give games away
So if you went to a shoip and bought a box of bits and bobs only to get to the checkout and they take away 3/5 items from the box but still take payment you'd be ok with that?
Most of the humble bundle games get added to steam never to be played or just played for a few mins then uninstalled I don't mind lol, not even bothered if I add them to steam or give them away/trade them. I've been known to buy multiple bundles as I said above to give games away
So if you went to a shoip and bought a box of bits and bobs only to get to the checkout and they take away 3/5 items from the box but still take payment you'd be ok with that?
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I give money to charity when I can mate normally Cancer research and Chrons research.
Most of the humble bundle games get added to steam never to be played or just played for a few mins then uninstalled I don't mind lol, not even bothered if I add them to steam or give them away/trade them. I've been known to buy multiple bundles as I said above to give games away
So if you went to a shoip and bought a box of bits and bobs only to get to the checkout and they take away 3/5 items from the box but still take payment you'd be ok with that?
Point is your choice to take items away
Going a shop and them taking items isn't the same thing.It makes little to no difference. I don't give to charity on my Humble Bundle purchases either (except for the Origin one), I set the slider so that it goes all to the devs.
It's also not a lost sale, as she wouldn't have bought it anyway, she plays some games as I've been introducing her to PC gaming. They can't lose something they never had.
I also sometimes buy bundles for friends, I bought 4 copies of the Deep Silver humble bundle (the $30 one that included Dead Island Riptide), and it would have been a pain in the arse to organise everyone I sent the keys to, linking their Steam accounts up, it's easier to just send them the keys over Skype and or register the keys on my other PC.
you can't blame HB for you buying a bundle and you already have 1 or 2 games. just think if you bought a bundle which includes 6 games and you payed 65p = $1 but you already had 2 games, so think how much the other 4 games would be if you bought them from i.e steam, maybe £3+ each, so basically your still getting 4 games for pennies
their policy hasn't changed, even before this new steam login system, you still wasn't technically allowed to gift or sell the keys but people was ignoring the policy/rules hence the change
if you don't like their policy/rules simply don't buy from there
also you can still buy multiple copies of the bundle for friends you just use the gift option in HB when buying.
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I know their policy hasn't changed, but I couldn't care less about their policy to be honest, they're about as useful as EULAs.
I know I can gift them to friends, I still think the copy and pasting of keys method is simpler and easy to do.
They've stated that they're looking in to the complaints about it, so it shows that they're at least reconsidering whether it was a good move or not.
I know I can gift them to friends, I still think the copy and pasting of keys method is simpler and easy to do.
They've stated that they're looking in to the complaints about it, so it shows that they're at least reconsidering whether it was a good move or not.
if you don't like their policy/rules simply don't buy from there
and if you can't stick to their policy/rules they should ban you tbh. it's same at most places i.e ocuk if you can't stick to their policy/rules you would get banned
Why should I not buy from them because I ignore their policies?
Ban me from what exactly? So I take no notice of their purchase policies, so I should be banned? How does that make any rational sense to you?
I take no notice of the lending policy (where on discs it says no unauthorised lending) of games, movies and music, should I also be banned from being able to buy any of that as well?
Is this how you would deal with people with opposing views if you had a forum, shop or website?
Why should I not buy from them because I ignore their policies?
Ban me from what exactly? So I take no notice of their purchase policies, so I should be banned? How does that make any rational sense to you?
I take no notice of the lending policy (where on discs it says no unauthorised lending) of games, movies and music, should I also be banned from being able to buy any of that as well?
Is this how you would deal with people with opposing views if you had a forum, shop or website?
policies/rules are there for a reason. if you break a policy/rule at lets say at ocuk what you think they'll do, ignore it or do something about it? personally i'm 99% sure they'll do something about it.
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Now you're changing policies to rules. Why not answer the other questions I had?
I take no notice of the lending policy (where on discs it says no unauthorised lending) of games, movies and music, should I also be banned from being able to buy any of that as well?
Is this how you would deal with people with opposing views if you had a forum, shop or website?
How exactly would Humble Bundle ban me? What would they ban me from?
Tell me more about breaking of rules and why that means I should be banned, and what I should be banned from specifically.
So you rent the game then not buy? As last time i checked if i buy something then i can certainly do what i like with it (apart from reverse engineer the code or suchlike). Regardless of what the game sellers policy or license says.... and i look forward to the court case in germany vs steam/valve determining rights for consumers.
because your asking a lot of question and it takes me awhile to type, remember i'm using a on screen keyboard.
also i'm not changing policies to rule.
yes and no. lets leave it has that
I don't understand this question tbh. but ill answer.
well yes because for example if you break steams policy/rule you get a ban without any questioning.
well they in a way because u can't gift the key. which is with they wanted to stop.
you should be banned from buying there. has you breaking they policy/rule
yes your not really buying a game has you don't really own it. your technically ranting it
That's fair enough, and I will take that into consideration in future.
You are really, we're talking about usage rights of products we have spent our own money on, which you changed to forum rules. They are very different situations.
But why? Why should I take notice of it, and why should I be banned if I don't, what should I be banned from?
This is another issue all together. Steam do have the facility to ban people no questions asked, these bans are usually very quickly turned around when the person makes a fuss about it, goes to the games media and or contacts Gabe Newell.
I haven't been banned though, they've simply changed the product delivery method, which it seems they are reconsidering that changed based on customer feedback
This is a really poor attitude to have with regards to people disagreeing with something. There's no legal standing for why I should abide by their policies at all.
This is what the companies selling the products would have you believe, however this is in directly contravention of UK/EU law in that you *do* own the products you buy even if they're digital.
This is what I meant when I said I take no noticed of those sort of policies or EULAs. It doesn't matter if you agree to Steam's EULA/Terms and Conditions if their terms and conditions aren't legal.
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Not really sure where the issue is with the change to humble bundle.
Yeh, sure it was nice giving away the games you already had, but it was against the rules regardless.
Usually for less than 4 quid you get between 6 and 10 games. If you have half of them, it's still worth getting. If your friends want them too, tell them to put their hands in their pockets and pay 4 quid!!!
In fact, thinking about it, it's a good move imo, I realise a lot of people are to cheap/tight/want everything for nothing etc etc and will complain to them, but I hope they keep it like it is! Hopefully it will get the charities more money, give the developers more money (giving them more of an incentive to give games) and obviously hb would get more money, but they are providing to the service!
Yeh, sure it was nice giving away the games you already had, but it was against the rules regardless.
Usually for less than 4 quid you get between 6 and 10 games. If you have half of them, it's still worth getting. If your friends want them too, tell them to put their hands in their pockets and pay 4 quid!!!
In fact, thinking about it, it's a good move imo, I realise a lot of people are to cheap/tight/want everything for nothing etc etc and will complain to them, but I hope they keep it like it is! Hopefully it will get the charities more money, give the developers more money (giving them more of an incentive to give games) and obviously hb would get more money, but they are providing to the service!
It's not really about that. It's along the lines of, I now have multiple copies of a game, but I can't do anything with these other copies that I legally own and are my property.
Also, how is wanting to be able to use your purchases the way you want to, wanting things for nothing?
Money has still changed hands in exchange for products, the cost and situation changes nothing.
Can you tell me what the actual issue is with wanting to be able make use of the 2 copies of a game that I legally own?
For the most part, yeah I'll buy multiple bundles, and it's not a problem, but if there's the odd game there that I already have, and the person I'd like to give it to has no interest in anything but that game, then it doesn't make sense to buy the lot again when I already have multiple copies of said game.
It's got nothing to do with being cheap, and everything to do with being able to use the stuff I own. I wouldn't have a Steam account with a ridiculous amount of games otherwise.
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stop giving games away and get your tightarse mates to give some quids to charity. I dont see the issue tbh.