Please keep all discussion about 2010 rules, drivers, teams, fota vs fia argument and anything else 2010 related in this thread ***Official F1 2010***
TV times:
HUNGARY
Friday 24 July
First practice: 0900-1030, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Second practice: 1300-1430, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Inside F1: 1830-1845, BBC News Channel, then repeated on the Red Button
Saturday 25 July
Third practice: 1000-1100, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Qualifying: 1210-1415, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Qualifying re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button
Sunday 26 July
Race: 1210-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Race re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button
Interactive Forum: 1500-1600, BBC Red Button/online
Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online
Standings:
Track:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/mot...uide/default.stm?circuitID=10&moduleID=m3#top
Track Diagram
Circuit information
Length: 4.381km
Race distance: 70 laps / 306.663km
Full throttle: 58%
Top speed: 291kph
Longest flat-out section: 11s / 750m
Right/left-hand turns: 8/6
Tyre wear: Medium/high
Brake wear: High
Downforce level: Very high
Gear changes per lap: 50
Weather Forecast
Hungary - a Formula One set-up guide
The Hungaroring presents plenty of challenges for drivers and engineers alike. The circuit features no high-speed corners, leading the teams to run the highest possible downforce levels, while the primary concern for the engine is ensuring good cooling in the usually hot conditions. The high summer temperatures also make life difficult for the drivers, who need to be in peak physical condition to cope with a race that gives them very little respite over its 70-lap distance. Renault explain how they plan to prepare the R29 for the race weekend…
Aerodynamics
The twisting, 14-corner layout of the Hungaroring features just one legitimate overtaking opportunity per lap, into Turn One. Apart from this straight of just over 700m, the circuit is filled with sequences of low to medium-speed corners, with short braking distances which make overtaking nearly impossible. The result is that the teams all run with maximum downforce levels, similar if not identical to those used in Monaco, in order to optimise not just cornering speeds, but also braking and traction. Maximum speeds achieved on the main straight rarely exceed 300km/h with the V8 engines.
As driver Fernando Alonso explains: "The circuit is quite intense for the drivers, as there are so many corners in a short lap. The high levels of downforce mean we can be quite aggressive with the car, and the physical loads are high in the quicker corners. The section of track from Turns Eight to 11 is all about accuracy, and anticipating the next corner. You need to find a good rhythm through the corners, and have confidence in a stable car balance to steer a smooth, quick course through this sequence."
Suspension
Mechanical grip is an important factor at a low-speed circuit such as this, and teams will generally try to run the car with softer settings all round to improve mechanical grip. The drivers want a responsive car in the low-speed sections, with good traction on corner exit, which will usually lead the teams to a forward mechanical bias (stiffer front/softer rear) in terms of set-up. However, rear tyre wear must be monitored very carefully, particularly to avoid overloading the softer compound available this weekend.
Tyres
Bridgestone will bring the soft and super-soft compounds from its 2009 range this weekend. The low-grip circuit conditions, coupled with the absence of high-speed corners, make these choices possible. As has become customary, the tyre management challenge for the weekend will be to control graining on the softest compound, and this should improve as the circuit rubbers-in throughout the weekend. Data collected during practice will determine whether the super-soft is suitable for use during the majority of the race, while cooler-than-expected temperatures, or overnight rain washing the circuit clean of rubber, could further complicate matters.
Alonso explains: "The track is always quite green and dusty at the start of the weekend, but it improves with every session and picks up a lot of grip as more rubber goes down. The first corner is the biggest braking zone and the only real overtaking opportunity on the circuit. It's a downhill right-hander that we approach in seventh gear at just under 300 km/h before braking down to 90km/h and downshifting to second gear. You need to take an early apex as the corner opens up on the exit so it's important to have good traction and get on the throttle early to carry good speed on the approach to Turn Two."
Cooling
Another important chassis parameter will be ensuring good cooling of the mechanical parts. Although the car's cooling capacity is now well-known, attention must be paid to ensuring the radiators are still well-cooled in spite of the high levels of front downforce run at this circuit. This will have been the object of particular attention in the wind tunnel, and will be fine-tuned during the weekend to ensure the cooling solution required brings the minimum performance penalty.
Engine
With the longest period spent at full throttle barely exceeding ten seconds, and with only 56 percent of the lap spent at full throttle (significantly lower than the average), this is not a demanding circuit for the engine. Of the 14 corners, five are taken in second gear at around 100km/h. Unlike Monaco, where the cars reach abnormally slow speeds in the hairpins, the minimum speed at the Hungaroring is approximately 90km/h. This means the engine spends the majority of its time in a relatively narrow operating window between 100km/h and 250km/h, and the closely-spaced gear ratios we use are selected to ensure optimum performance in this range. As always on a circuit featuring a large number of slow corners, good torque is important to help launch the cars out of the turns.
Classic Nurburgring Grand Prix
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1986
Watch highlights from the 1986 Hungarian Grand Prix as Nelson Piquet wins the first ever race at the Hungaroring ahead of Ayrton Senna and Nigel Mansell.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1988
Watch highlights from the 1988 Hungarian Grand Prix as McLaren's Ayrton Senna holds off the challenge of team-mate and title rival Alain Prost to win at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1989 extended highlights
Watch the BBC's "Grand Prix" programme from the 1989 Hungarian race as Nigel Mansell claims his "best ever" win in F1 after starting 12th on the grid in his Ferrari at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1997
Watch highlights from the 1997 Hungarian Grand Prix as Damon Hill suffers last-lap heartache as a throttle linkage failure costs him victory at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 2006
Watch highlights from the 2006 Hungarian Grand Prix as Jenson Button claims his first ever win in F1 during an eventful rain-soaked race at the Hungaroring.
Technical Changes - Nürburgring
Hungry Team Previews
News
Jaime Alguersuari
Henry Surtees dies after F2 crash
Henry Surtees, son of former Formula 1 world champion John, has died after suffering serious injuries following a freak accident in a Formula 2 race at Brands Hatch on Sunday.
The 18-year-old was hit on the head by a flying wheel from another car which had just crashed into a tyre wall ahead of him.
Surtees was immediately knocked unconscious by the impact and his car failed to round the following Sheene corner, going straight on and crashing into the barriers.
The race was stopped immediately and medical crews dispatched to the scene where Surtees was removed from his car and taken to the circuit’s medical centre, before being airlifted to the Royal London hospital.
A hospital spokesman later confirmed that Surtees had died from the injuries sustained.
The teenager had been following in his legendary father’s footsteps by pursuing a career in motorsport, John Surtees having carved out a unique place in history as the only man to claim world titles on both two and four wheels.
After making his way through the karting ranks, Henry Surtees switched to single-seater racing in 2007 in Formula BMW UK and claimed one race victory and eight podium finishes on the way to sixth place in the championship.
Last year Surtees made the step up to Formula Renault 2.0 with Manor Motorsport, before competing in the final weekend of the British F3 championship at Donington.
Following the re-creation of the Formula 2 championship at the start of this year, Surtees joined the grid and claimed his first podium finish in the series in the opening race of the Brands Hatch weekend on Saturday.
A statement issued on Monday by F2's governing body the FIA said: "Following yesterday’s tragic accident, the FIA extends its sincere condolences to the family and friends of Henry Surtees. Our thoughts are with them at this difficult time."
The track and TV coverage starts
Technical changes HUNGARORING
Practice 1
Kovalainen tops Hungary practice
Heikki Kovalainen snatched top spot from Nico Rosberg with a last-gasp flying lap in a tight first practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Practice 2
Practice 3
Qualifying
Highlights - Alonso claims Hungary pole
Watch Q3 for the Hungarian Grand Prix which was delayed following a crash involving Felipe Massa while Fernando Alonso eventually claims pole after a computer timing system failed.
Video of crash ouch and not good two helmet strikes in a week. resulting in one death and one injury.
Massa crashes in Hungary qualifying
The final session of qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix is delayed when Ferrari's Felipe Massa crashes after being struck on the helmet by a piece of debris, believed to be from Rubens Barrichello's car.
Button blames fuel load
Brawn GP's Jenson Button says his car was struggling in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix because of the extra fuel he was carrying, after finishing eighth in the standings.
Hungarian GP qualifying - drivers' news conference
Renault's Fernando Alonso takes pole position at the end of a confusing final qualifying session for the Hungarian Grand Prix. Red Bull duo Sebastien Vettel and Mark Webber are second and third respectively.
Fuel Loads
Race
Hungary GP drivers' news conference
McLaren's Lewis Hamilton cannot hide his delight following his first win of the season at the Hungarian Grand Prix; Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen was second and Red Bull's Mark Webber third.
Hungarian Grand Prix in 90 seconds
Short highlights of Lewis Hamilton's victory at the Hungarian Grand Prix at the Hungaroring.
Highlights - Hamilton's first win of the season
Lewis Hamilton reminds everyone he is the reigning F1 world champion, claiming his first win of the 2009 season in the much-improved McLaren at the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Standings
TV times:
HUNGARY
Friday 24 July
First practice: 0900-1030, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Second practice: 1300-1430, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Inside F1: 1830-1845, BBC News Channel, then repeated on the Red Button
Saturday 25 July
Third practice: 1000-1100, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Qualifying: 1210-1415, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Qualifying re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button
Sunday 26 July
Race: 1210-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Race re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button
Interactive Forum: 1500-1600, BBC Red Button/online
Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online
Standings:
Track:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/mot...uide/default.stm?circuitID=10&moduleID=m3#top
Track Diagram
Circuit information
Length: 4.381km
Race distance: 70 laps / 306.663km
Full throttle: 58%
Top speed: 291kph
Longest flat-out section: 11s / 750m
Right/left-hand turns: 8/6
Tyre wear: Medium/high
Brake wear: High
Downforce level: Very high
Gear changes per lap: 50
Weather Forecast
Hungary - a Formula One set-up guide
The Hungaroring presents plenty of challenges for drivers and engineers alike. The circuit features no high-speed corners, leading the teams to run the highest possible downforce levels, while the primary concern for the engine is ensuring good cooling in the usually hot conditions. The high summer temperatures also make life difficult for the drivers, who need to be in peak physical condition to cope with a race that gives them very little respite over its 70-lap distance. Renault explain how they plan to prepare the R29 for the race weekend…
Aerodynamics
The twisting, 14-corner layout of the Hungaroring features just one legitimate overtaking opportunity per lap, into Turn One. Apart from this straight of just over 700m, the circuit is filled with sequences of low to medium-speed corners, with short braking distances which make overtaking nearly impossible. The result is that the teams all run with maximum downforce levels, similar if not identical to those used in Monaco, in order to optimise not just cornering speeds, but also braking and traction. Maximum speeds achieved on the main straight rarely exceed 300km/h with the V8 engines.
As driver Fernando Alonso explains: "The circuit is quite intense for the drivers, as there are so many corners in a short lap. The high levels of downforce mean we can be quite aggressive with the car, and the physical loads are high in the quicker corners. The section of track from Turns Eight to 11 is all about accuracy, and anticipating the next corner. You need to find a good rhythm through the corners, and have confidence in a stable car balance to steer a smooth, quick course through this sequence."
Suspension
Mechanical grip is an important factor at a low-speed circuit such as this, and teams will generally try to run the car with softer settings all round to improve mechanical grip. The drivers want a responsive car in the low-speed sections, with good traction on corner exit, which will usually lead the teams to a forward mechanical bias (stiffer front/softer rear) in terms of set-up. However, rear tyre wear must be monitored very carefully, particularly to avoid overloading the softer compound available this weekend.
Tyres
Bridgestone will bring the soft and super-soft compounds from its 2009 range this weekend. The low-grip circuit conditions, coupled with the absence of high-speed corners, make these choices possible. As has become customary, the tyre management challenge for the weekend will be to control graining on the softest compound, and this should improve as the circuit rubbers-in throughout the weekend. Data collected during practice will determine whether the super-soft is suitable for use during the majority of the race, while cooler-than-expected temperatures, or overnight rain washing the circuit clean of rubber, could further complicate matters.
Alonso explains: "The track is always quite green and dusty at the start of the weekend, but it improves with every session and picks up a lot of grip as more rubber goes down. The first corner is the biggest braking zone and the only real overtaking opportunity on the circuit. It's a downhill right-hander that we approach in seventh gear at just under 300 km/h before braking down to 90km/h and downshifting to second gear. You need to take an early apex as the corner opens up on the exit so it's important to have good traction and get on the throttle early to carry good speed on the approach to Turn Two."
Cooling
Another important chassis parameter will be ensuring good cooling of the mechanical parts. Although the car's cooling capacity is now well-known, attention must be paid to ensuring the radiators are still well-cooled in spite of the high levels of front downforce run at this circuit. This will have been the object of particular attention in the wind tunnel, and will be fine-tuned during the weekend to ensure the cooling solution required brings the minimum performance penalty.
Engine
With the longest period spent at full throttle barely exceeding ten seconds, and with only 56 percent of the lap spent at full throttle (significantly lower than the average), this is not a demanding circuit for the engine. Of the 14 corners, five are taken in second gear at around 100km/h. Unlike Monaco, where the cars reach abnormally slow speeds in the hairpins, the minimum speed at the Hungaroring is approximately 90km/h. This means the engine spends the majority of its time in a relatively narrow operating window between 100km/h and 250km/h, and the closely-spaced gear ratios we use are selected to ensure optimum performance in this range. As always on a circuit featuring a large number of slow corners, good torque is important to help launch the cars out of the turns.
Classic Nurburgring Grand Prix
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1986
Watch highlights from the 1986 Hungarian Grand Prix as Nelson Piquet wins the first ever race at the Hungaroring ahead of Ayrton Senna and Nigel Mansell.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1988
Watch highlights from the 1988 Hungarian Grand Prix as McLaren's Ayrton Senna holds off the challenge of team-mate and title rival Alain Prost to win at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1989 extended highlights
Watch the BBC's "Grand Prix" programme from the 1989 Hungarian race as Nigel Mansell claims his "best ever" win in F1 after starting 12th on the grid in his Ferrari at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 1997
Watch highlights from the 1997 Hungarian Grand Prix as Damon Hill suffers last-lap heartache as a throttle linkage failure costs him victory at the Hungaroring.
Classic F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix 2006
Watch highlights from the 2006 Hungarian Grand Prix as Jenson Button claims his first ever win in F1 during an eventful rain-soaked race at the Hungaroring.
Technical Changes - Nürburgring
Hungry Team Previews
News
- Alguersuari handed Toro Rosso drive
Jaime Alguersuari will become the youngest Formula 1 driver in history in Sunday’s Hungarian Grand Prix after Toro Rosso confirmed the young Spaniard as Sebastien Bourdais’ replacement on Monday morning. - Kimi targets podium return in Hungary
Kimi Raikkonen believes Ferrari can aim to repeat is Monaco podium finish at the similarly high downforce Hungaroring this weekend. - Brawn sure team can rediscover form
Ross Brawn is confident his team can rediscover the form that established it as the 2009 benchmark after being trounced by Red Bull Racing in the past two events. - Mallya: Germany not a one-hit wonder
Force India boss Vijay Mallya is confident Adrian Sutil’s stellar showing in the German Grand Prix will not be a flash in the pan and that his team has now broken into Formula 1’s tight midfield group. - Rosberg targets first 2009 podium
Nico Rosberg believes Williams should be more competitive from the outset at this weekend’s Hungarian Grand Prix than it was at the Nurburgring and is targeting his first podium finish of the year. - Toyota can regain form – Trulli
Jarno Trulli is confident Toyota will return to being a competitive force at the Hungaroring if the team can string together a trouble-free weekend. - Horner: Vettel and Webber to get equal treatment
Following his German Grand Prix success, Mark Webber is closer than ever to Red Bull team mate Sebastian Vettel, both in terms of performance and world championship points. Webber is third in the standings on 45.5 to second-placed Vettel’s 47.
Jaime Alguersuari
Henry Surtees dies after F2 crash
Henry Surtees, son of former Formula 1 world champion John, has died after suffering serious injuries following a freak accident in a Formula 2 race at Brands Hatch on Sunday.
The 18-year-old was hit on the head by a flying wheel from another car which had just crashed into a tyre wall ahead of him.
Surtees was immediately knocked unconscious by the impact and his car failed to round the following Sheene corner, going straight on and crashing into the barriers.
The race was stopped immediately and medical crews dispatched to the scene where Surtees was removed from his car and taken to the circuit’s medical centre, before being airlifted to the Royal London hospital.
A hospital spokesman later confirmed that Surtees had died from the injuries sustained.
The teenager had been following in his legendary father’s footsteps by pursuing a career in motorsport, John Surtees having carved out a unique place in history as the only man to claim world titles on both two and four wheels.
After making his way through the karting ranks, Henry Surtees switched to single-seater racing in 2007 in Formula BMW UK and claimed one race victory and eight podium finishes on the way to sixth place in the championship.
Last year Surtees made the step up to Formula Renault 2.0 with Manor Motorsport, before competing in the final weekend of the British F3 championship at Donington.
Following the re-creation of the Formula 2 championship at the start of this year, Surtees joined the grid and claimed his first podium finish in the series in the opening race of the Brands Hatch weekend on Saturday.
A statement issued on Monday by F2's governing body the FIA said: "Following yesterday’s tragic accident, the FIA extends its sincere condolences to the family and friends of Henry Surtees. Our thoughts are with them at this difficult time."
The track and TV coverage starts
Technical changes HUNGARORING
Practice 1
Kovalainen tops Hungary practice
Heikki Kovalainen snatched top spot from Nico Rosberg with a last-gasp flying lap in a tight first practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Practice 2
Practice 3
Qualifying
Highlights - Alonso claims Hungary pole
Watch Q3 for the Hungarian Grand Prix which was delayed following a crash involving Felipe Massa while Fernando Alonso eventually claims pole after a computer timing system failed.
Video of crash ouch and not good two helmet strikes in a week. resulting in one death and one injury.
Massa crashes in Hungary qualifying
The final session of qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix is delayed when Ferrari's Felipe Massa crashes after being struck on the helmet by a piece of debris, believed to be from Rubens Barrichello's car.
Button blames fuel load
Brawn GP's Jenson Button says his car was struggling in qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix because of the extra fuel he was carrying, after finishing eighth in the standings.
Hungarian GP qualifying - drivers' news conference
Renault's Fernando Alonso takes pole position at the end of a confusing final qualifying session for the Hungarian Grand Prix. Red Bull duo Sebastien Vettel and Mark Webber are second and third respectively.
Fuel Loads
Race
Hungary GP drivers' news conference
McLaren's Lewis Hamilton cannot hide his delight following his first win of the season at the Hungarian Grand Prix; Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen was second and Red Bull's Mark Webber third.
Hungarian Grand Prix in 90 seconds
Short highlights of Lewis Hamilton's victory at the Hungarian Grand Prix at the Hungaroring.
Highlights - Hamilton's first win of the season
Lewis Hamilton reminds everyone he is the reigning F1 world champion, claiming his first win of the 2009 season in the much-improved McLaren at the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Standings
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as sad as those accidents are, this is still racing.