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HWU perform detailed testing to "provide definitive proof" that 8GB VRAM is not enough even at 1080p in multiple demanding modern games
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8/10Gb been doing it for ages.
The excuses and denial has already started.
From the other, other thread:
TLOU flushed textures pics are on 3080 10Gb 4K mixed settings.
The excuses and denial has already started.
From the other, other thread:
I'll idiot proof the proof this time to negate the 'there's no proof' excuses:
Here's my 3070,58003D/32Gb@1080p, yes 1080p on Forza, been out years now:
It doesn't slideshow, it'll flush textures, that is the fallback in that engine.
Will flushed textures like these be fixed in a patch when they do/don't optimise textures when you go past the vram limit like this in tlou, doubt it as I can't see them fitting those textures into that allocation.
Myself and many, many forum 3070/80 users here have all been repeating over and over again that 8 and 10Gb IS choking the gpus outwith FC6, so why's it impossible newer games can't break 8/10Gb?
TLOU flushed textures pics are on 3080 10Gb 4K mixed settings.
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Let me get this straight. Are you trying to tell me, that in some games the 6800 is the better choice than the 3070 if you want to play with RT, because VRAM limits get in the way?
As has been noted, it is important to compare image quality as well as frame numbers, because the game will just lower settings in the background to cope with gimped GPUs.
I'm going to guess another tactic devs would use is to just load stuff later and let the users deal with more pop in.
As has been noted, it is important to compare image quality as well as frame numbers, because the game will just lower settings in the background to cope with gimped GPUs.
I'm going to guess another tactic devs would use is to just load stuff later and let the users deal with more pop in.
I still don't get how that video is relevant to the Plague Tale running fine at 4k ultra using only 5gb of vram. As Steve himself said, it's one of the best looking games this gen, and it's fine with 4.5 to 6 gb of VRAM (thats the average im seeing).
8gb according to nvidia
Did a quick test of this on my end except maxed settings with dlss balanced (although for a gpu of this grunt, you really need performance mode or/and reduced settings but I digress.....) and no issue with the textures there:
Still don't believe you on forza issues at 1080P either, not a single thing elsewhere mentioned about it, not even by HUB......
Given you seem to be having issues that are there yet not on my end with same specs, I'm going to go with local system issue or/and is this before the patches which fixed issues???
Been saying it for ages that if you want to run decent settings at 1440p or 4K a GPU with 11GB+ is the smallest you should be aiming for, and look where we are now, an 8GB buffer on a modern card is choking in games because of Nvidia being stingy with their VRAM, and 10GB the way games are going won't be that far behind.
It's ridiculous that the 1080 Ti in 2017 came with 11GB which was overkill for the time but thanks to that it lived a very long life and its still a decent card thanks to that massive VRAM, then you have a card like the 3080 which came out around 4yrs later and they only give it 10GB. I mean WTF were they thinking, you have a high end card targeting 4K with ray tracing and they lower the VRAM!, that's a card that should have had 12GB at launch. I see a 12GB 3080 came out just under 2yrs later when it should have launched as that in the first place as a minimum.
Nvidia really ****** me off when it comes to this, they either give you far too little or like the 3090/4090 they go way overkill.
It's ridiculous that the 1080 Ti in 2017 came with 11GB which was overkill for the time but thanks to that it lived a very long life and its still a decent card thanks to that massive VRAM, then you have a card like the 3080 which came out around 4yrs later and they only give it 10GB. I mean WTF were they thinking, you have a high end card targeting 4K with ray tracing and they lower the VRAM!, that's a card that should have had 12GB at launch. I see a 12GB 3080 came out just under 2yrs later when it should have launched as that in the first place as a minimum.
Nvidia really ****** me off when it comes to this, they either give you far too little or like the 3090/4090 they go way overkill.
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Why? As i've said repeatedly, when Plague Tale , one of the best looking games this gen needs around 5gb of VRAM for 4k ultra, anything else is just developers being lazy. If you want to reward that by paying more for VRAM, I guess thats great
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arguing about vram has been done to death in other threads, we don't need to do it again.
Don't disagree but I wouldn't say a 1080ti was doing well, given a 2080ti isn't doing well.... not to mention, you can't even use RT on the 1080ti
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Agree , thread should be stickied and locked.
Fact is the times have changed. The old logic that vram was essentially important only for higher resolutions no longer holds true.
When 1080p games are maxing out 8GB you can’t even be sure 12GB is enough for 1440p.
Gimping the VRAM is a pretty clever way to have “built in obsolescence”. The 12GB on the 4070 Ti is pretty low too tbh and the main reason I’m not considering that card currently.
When 1080p games are maxing out 8GB you can’t even be sure 12GB is enough for 1440p.
Gimping the VRAM is a pretty clever way to have “built in obsolescence”. The 12GB on the 4070 Ti is pretty low too tbh and the main reason I’m not considering that card currently.
Why does it need to be stickied?
Do you not think this is an inherrent issue with the affected titles and the way they have been ported rather than it being a "vram problem" though? I would expect issues at 4k and maybe even 1440p with 8gb but under no circumstances should there be issues at 1080P........
The 1080 Ti is a lower end 1080p card by modern standards with zero RT for modern games, but at least it's not going to choke because it ran out of VRAM.
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