I can see you raising the price of the 768MB GeForce GTX 460

coupe69 · 20 Oct 2010 at 16:45

Big.Wayne said:
I think if you look closely at the benchmarks in post #193 I think you will find that the amount of vRam doesn't appear to be a problem in any of those games . . . I think to some people posting in this thread and reading this thread this is indeed a "revelationary point"

Big Wayne the bar charts that you put up can only give you part of the overall picture, surely you can understand this?

Perhaps you need to purchase some of the hardware in question, along with an up to date OS? Maybe then I could start to take you seriously.

Again I'll quote Duff-Man:

Duff-Man said:
In the case that the VRAM limit is close to the threshold, there will be only certain game scenes where the VRAM limit is reached, leading to relatively infrequent cases of paging, which will manifest as small pauses or brief periods where the framerate drops dramatically. This is extremely disruptive to gameplay, but may not have a significant effect on average-FPS benchmark scores.

RavenXXX2 · 20 Oct 2010 at 16:48

Yeah I had a 512mb 4870 and on certain courses in Grid with max IQ and 8xAA the FPS would bottom out and the game became a lag fest, not nice.

Gibbo · 20 Oct 2010 at 16:52

Check the prices of 460's and 470's now, pricing down.

Le_Petit_Lapin · 20 Oct 2010 at 16:58

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah I had a 512mb 4870 and on certain courses in Grid with max IQ and 8xAA the FPS would bottom out and the game became a lag fest, not nice.

Apparently that doesn't happen in Big.Waynes world, in there average FPS is king.

robgmun · 20 Oct 2010 at 17:11

Gibbo said:
Check the prices of 460's and 470's now, pricing down.

yep, difference is now down to 30 pounds, but really it's more like 20 as i wouldn't touch Palit with a barge pole. This thread (and wayne) is getting more ridiculous as the days go by.

Personally i am waiting for the HAWKs to reach 150-160 and then i'll buy a second one.

coupe69 · 20 Oct 2010 at 17:11

RavenXXX2 said:
I would not recommend a 460 768 at 1080p if you want to enjoy demanding games with AA, my own research shows you are pushing 800mb at 1680x, go 1GB.

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah I had a 512mb 4870 and on certain courses in Grid with max IQ and 8xAA the FPS would bottom out and the game became a lag fest, not nice.

It's nice to see we agree on something for a change, although you seem to have changed your tune a bit since this post

RavenXXX2 said:
I agree with BW, of course a 460 768 will cut it at 1920x res, you're not going to max out the demanding games with a 460 at that res anyway so you're likely to turn AA off or other IQ settings down.

I'm presuming you've done a little more research since then?

Gibbo said:
Check the prices of 460's and 470's now, pricing down.

Only £30 difference now between the cheapest 768MB and 1GB versions!

However I'd probably opt for the £199.99 GTX 470 if gaming at 1080P with a recent OS

Either that or wait and see what AMDs latest offerings produce later this week.

uv · 20 Oct 2010 at 17:13

Big.Wayne said:
this was to demonstrate that the SLI'ed cards were not "crippled" by their 768MB vRam

They are crippled by the fact that they're in SLI, regardless of their VRAM.

I assume from your opinion that you've never had a multi-GPU setup?
Once you have, and you have witnessed the effect that micro-stutter has when it manifests at lower framerates, I'll consider your opinion on the matter to be valid. Trying to argue your copy-paste bar charts against my own, very real experience just doesn't cut any mustard whatsoever.

Big.Wayne · 20 Oct 2010 at 17:54

Big.Wayne said:
I can see you raising the price of the 768MB GeForce GTX 460

If you were intending to break this image then it would have been better to lower the price of the 1GB unit!

12th Oct 2010, 17:37

Gibbo said:
Check the prices of 460's and 470's now, pricing down.

20th Oct 2010, 16:52

Nice one Gibbo! . . . still room for a little more reduction on the 1024Mb models! . . . see what you can do!

That's been a most productive week! . . . Enjoy your cards Peeps! :cool:

coupe69 · 20 Oct 2010 at 17:56

Big.Wayne said:
That's been a most productive week! . . .

Yes the most productive trolling I've seen in a good while, hats off to you

Marine-RX179 · 20 Oct 2010 at 18:39

If only the Gigabyte or MSI Cyclone GTX460 1GB was £150...would have bought it in a heartbeat

I don't really need the free game to be honest

jakesnake · 20 Oct 2010 at 18:41

this is my view on the this:

these benches that r being thrown around are just numbers and dont represent the physical experience when playing a game for the more intensive frequent user.

if you are passionate/competitive about your games and love it as a hobbie then you will develope better senses which enables you to "see" more on the screen and actually "feel" the game through the keyboard and mouse like its physically in your hands. if you think this is bull****, then you just play games on occasion and are just not into it as much.

768mb: if you game now and again, you will not be able to see or feel the difference that i can so it will suit your needs.

1GB: for the more sensitive user who is fequently gaming who has/or will become more aware of visual and responce from the game.

@Big.Wayne : i dont think your view on the cheaper version is wrong because personally i think you fall under the "occasional" gamer and it suits your needs. but others are right to argue the point of the extra money for the 1gb because they understand wot it means.

i hope every1 understands wot im trying to say because its the truth in my eyes.

Dark_Angel · 20 Oct 2010 at 21:01

Big.Wayne said:
Nice one Gibbo! . . . still room for a little more reduction on the 1024Mb models! . . . see what you can do!

That's been a most productive week! . . . Enjoy your cards Peeps!

OLDSKOOL · 20 Oct 2010 at 21:05

I think Big Wayne is trying to point out this thread "could be responsible" for OCUK lowering there prices of the 460....in which case it has been a productive week.
Hey BW Im buying some furniture next week, any chance you could sign up to the Ikea forum?

arc@css · 20 Oct 2010 at 22:26

OLDSKOOL said:
I think Big Wayne is trying to point out this thread "could be responsible" for OCUK lowering there prices of the 460....in which case it has been a productive week.
Hey BW Im buying some furniture next week, any chance you could sign up to the Ikea forum?

gazjones105 · 20 Oct 2010 at 23:04

all this talk about vram got me worried as ive just bought 2 msi gtx 460's (768mb)

i ran bad company 2 all maxed out @ 1920x1080 with 8xcsaa and the vram did not go over 730mb. most maps used about 680mb but laguna alta used about 720mb.

maybe the fact that they are sli used less vram?? maybe its because ive got an i7@4ghz??

i dont know what it is but i was well impressed with what i seen. expecially after seening some screen shots on this thread of 4 year old games using a lot more.

easyrider · 21 Oct 2010 at 08:43

Some people are clearly delusional...

MikeB · 21 Oct 2010 at 08:53

tried to read this thread, and follow the graphs, my conclusion is that who gives a monkies really, we can get good graphic cards for a fraction of what it used to cost, surely no one would argue that a 460 768 or a 460 1gb are in any way crap for normal use.

arc@css · 21 Oct 2010 at 09:15

No one is saying that.

MikeB · 21 Oct 2010 at 09:21

seems and incredible amount of energy wasted then on what appears to be minimal cost and performance differences, each to their own I guess

Duff-Man · 21 Oct 2010 at 10:55

OLDSKOOL said:
I think Big Wayne is trying to point out this thread "could be responsible" for OCUK lowering there prices of the 460....in which case it has been a productive week.

Ha!

Yeah... Or maybe, just maybe, it could be related to the release of a new card line-up from AMD.