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I DONT KNOW what to do

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I have an i7 920, but want to change as the mobo is knackered.

Options buy new mobo which I can't find.
Buy AMD but which? Piledriver or new a-series?
Buy intel?

Used for photo editing and gaming, eve online etc.

Advice?

If AMD I'd spend 150 ish on cpu, what is the best cpu at that price? What are the main benefits of the new cpu/gpu mix over the piledriver?
I basically want as much grunt and future proofing as I can get for as little cash as possible.
The i7's are way over priced for what you get really.
 
The thing is getting those items in a good known state, as second hand you could get a failed oc attempt cpu or frazzled mobo. I don't like eBay and can't yet access the sales pages on here.

Plus getting a good motherboard second hand may be difficult, as in top spec. If buying AMD I could get a top spec usb3 mobo with decent processor, then either make do with my gfx cards or sell and get a decent one to replace them.
 
The problem is, you could spend 300 quid on a decent AMD CPU/Mobo, but it won't always give you the same performance as your i7.

Depending on your i7 clock, the FX83 clock, and the software you use, you could get lower/same/better performance depending on the situation.

The FX83's make very good upgrades over Core 2's and Phenom/II set ups, not so much over an i7 9XX.
 
Aha ok er I need a new mobo prefer saber tooth or ud5 or better with usb3 ....... where to get though :-(
 
1366 boards are worth their weight in gold now. I would certainly not buy one used.

Right now the Sabers are reaching £150+ when up for sale. The same goes for any decent 1366 board. For that money you can get a 6300 with a board that will perform about as well as your 920. What I do know is that in Asus Realbench my 8320 @ 4.7ghz absolutely buried the 920 on every test but GIMP which is tragically old.

The 8320 is around £110 now. The Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 £99, so for around £200 ish you're making the X58 board a hard choice.

As for the Xeons? now look, I'll be honest here. They need big clocks to compete with the AMD FX 8s. That means you're going to need a high end one that can reach 4ghz in order to get around the fact that most if not all 8320s can do 4.5ghz.

Hopefully I will be able to show this in a short while once my Xeon arrives.
 
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First thing get your caps lock fixed.

Second, don't go anywhere near an AMD CPU coming from an Intel i7, it would feel like a down-grade. If you must upgrade, Haswell mobo's are cheap, 4770K or Xeon 1230 V3 (Locked 4770K), are blinding performing chips and won't break the bank.
 
Ask Wolvers, he went to an FX83 from an i7 (But then upgraded to another Intel set up within a few months), as he's the best to give you the information you're after to be honest.
 
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Martini1991 said:
The problem is, you could spend 300 quid on a decent AMD CPU/Mobo, but it won't always give you the same performance as your i7.

Depending on your i7 clock, the FX83 clock, and the software you use, you could get lower/same/better performance depending on the situation.

The FX83's make very good upgrades over Core 2's and Phenom/II set ups, not so much over an i7 9XX.
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Pretty much this but a lot depends on how well clocked the i7 920 is vs an FX83. If you take cinebench R15 as a rough measure of single and multithreaded performance, at stock speeds they are about the same:

i7 920 stock single core score usually 100-110, multi-core 550-600
FX8350 stock single core score usually 100-110, multi-core 600-650+

I'd say the FX chips are easier to overclock closer to 5GHz and beyond. At those levels you are looking at R15 scores of 120-130 single core and 800-850 multithreaded scores. Don't really have many very highly clocked 920s around to see what sort of performance they give but I would guess a little less than the FX. I'd agree that getting a socket 1366 board is a good approach at the moment unless you fancy a change.
 
Unless I can get a safe bet on a 1366 mobo I won't be going that way, the reviews on the 8350 are really good, I can't afford a full new i7 setup and Intel keep changing things up so it's nay on impossible to get stuff not far down the line as seen on the 1366. The AMD stuff seems to last a while? And the price - performance ratio is good
 
AM3+ is a dead socket and there's no CPU's due for it so I wouldn't say they last a while.

You can build a current Haswell i5 rig for the money you want to spend on AMD and a Sandy Bridge i7 for the same money if you shop around
 
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AM3+ is a dead socket and there's no CPU's due for it so I wouldn't say they last a while.

You can build a current Haswell i5 rig for the money you want to spend on AMD and a Sandy Bridge i7 for the same money if you shop around
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Absolutely this, £300 is better spent on a 4670k and say a G45.
 
Except a brand new FX8320 and an Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (6+2 phase power) will cost you a total of £187 brand new. Can't really beat that price to performance. I'd put what is saved from that on a GPU any day.

Not to mention multi (well) threaded games becoming more common. Mantle etc...won't repeat all that here.
 
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Mantle isn't exactly a plus to the FX when it's for everything :p

And going maxed out a clocked i7 920 isn't exactly crapping itself to a maxed out FX83.
And it's not like with the extra 120 quid you're getting more GPU grunt over what you've already got :p (Unless you were buying a whole new set up, but then you wouldn't be looking at i7 9XX's)

On the MM you can get 1366 boards for about 50 quid?

It's not a straight forward situation, I couldn't personally recommend either an i5 4670K or AM3+ set up, if I had 300 quid to spend, I'd just decide to spend another 20 and get an i7 4770K set up.
 
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Mantle isn't exactly a plus to the FX when it's for everything :p

And going maxed out a clocked i7 920 isn't exactly crapping itself to a maxed out FX83.
And it's not like with the extra 120 quid you're getting more GPU grunt over what you've already got :p (Unless you were buying a whole new set up, but then you wouldn't be looking at i7 9XX's)

On the MM you can get 1366 boards for about 50 quid?
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no one said the i7 is crapping itself. I mentioned above that it is probably quite similar to an FX83 in performance and even advocated buying a second hand 1366 board.

Not sure how you envisage him using Mantle with his Nvidia cards though. I was more thinking around chopping and changing to a single high end AMD GPU. I'd have an R9 290 or 290X any day over 460 SLI. The point is, the money saved from this hypothetical £300 everyone is talking about, is better spent on a GPU or SSD or anything else except the CPU as far as I'm concerned (if budget is a consideration).
 
Where did the 300 quid come up anyway :p?

I'd take an R9 290 over a 460 SLI, but now we're going OTT, going completely in another direction.
And I just explained more about mantle, not sure why you're allowed and I get questioned :p?
 
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