I hate horror

Irreversible is just an exploitation film. Nothing more. Its not that effective at it either really.

You have totally, abominably misunderstood the film.

And since you're going to come back with a disagreement, I'll explain to you why.

Firstly, artistically. The whole film was shot in 13 long takes and most of the dialogue is improvised. The actors worked without a script only being told what to generally say. That, in itself, is a great feat. This was director Noe's second ever full-length film and gained him numerous awards and nominations.

Second, morally. Being told back to front, the film forces us to think about the consequences of our actions before we see the causes, and whether the outcome is justified by the violence. Of course, it very rarely - if ever - is. There is an ethical point to the backwards theme, rather than just a plot-based one, such as in Memento.

The violence is, in itself, sickening - and this is exactly Noe's point. We have become so desensitised to violence through the media that many of us have seen possibly thousands of acted-out killing and deaths, and most of the time we feel nothing when we see them. Noe's depiction of violence makes us feel disgusted as we should when we see someone getting beaten up, or getting raped. It reminds us of our true feelings towards these things when they're not being glossed over by Hollywood and the big studios. They're vile, they're despicable, just how they're shown in the film.

By giving us insight into the characters' lives - before and after the events - it shows us how atrocious violent acts really are and how they can destroy people. They are Irreversible, you can't change them afterwards, and they can destroy peoples' lives forever. The moral at the end - "Time Destroys Everything" - posits time as the ultimate destructive force. In the end we will all come to nothing, and we should make something positive of ourselves on the way. The choice is ours.
 
I love horror but all these Hollywood "OMG WTF HOW MUCH GORE CAN WE PUT IN" films get on my nerves. There's nothing "scary" about watching gore, it's just disgusting. Decent horror films work on emotion and suspense, not sheer repulsiveness.
Apart from the "I love horror" bit, I agree totally. I find gore movies thoroughly distasteful. I like being scared now and then - but gore just makes me feel sick.
 
I love horror as a genre. From proper scary suspense horrors, to classic 80's slasher flicks. I love the clichés, I love knowing what is probably going to happen next, I love choosing who is going to die (girl takes top off = dead cert for a knifing)

I've just ordered the Friday 13th box set to start building up my back catalogue, I'll build up the Halloween series too but at nearly £100 for the box set I'll not be forking out for all of them in one go.
 
28 days later, awesome film. I usually hate horror film's but this was one work of art in my opinion.

I don't know if Alien is classed as Horror but it's an awesome film.


28 Days Later is a bloody awful a complete The Stand rip off, the only good part in the film is the first 5 minutes after that it runs down the same path of most horror films. Sorry but it is awful.

Alien on the other hand is what a horror film should be.
 
28 Days Later is a bloody awful a complete The Stand rip off, the only good part in the film is the first 5 minutes after that it runs down the same path of most horror films. Sorry but it is awful.

Alien on the other hand is what a horror film should be.

Agreed on Alien. 28 Days Later is a tricky one - I enjoyed it but wouldn't class it as horror, or zombie flick.

Lots of psychological (i.e. not garish) foreign horror is good - Ringu, Rec, Ju-On (The Grudge), Audition, Dark Water, Old Boy.
 
I love horror as a genre. From proper scary suspense horrors, to classic 80's slasher flicks. I love the clichés, I love knowing what is probably going to happen next, I love choosing who is going to die (girl takes top off = dead cert for a knifing)

Hence Scream being such a good film. :D

There are certain RULES that one must abide by in order to successfully survive a horror movie.

For instance, number one: you can never have sex. BIG NO NO! BIG NO NO! Sex equals death, okay?

Number two: you can never drink or do drugs. The sin factor! It's a sin. It's an extension of number one.

And number three: never, ever, ever under any circumstances say, "I'll be right back." Because you won't be back.

I love Scream - it rejuvenated the Horror genre for me. It was deliberately slightly corny and took a swipe at other horror films for being so predictable, even though Scream itself was a little predictable. It was the perfect teen horror film for the time. Sadly, like many other films the sequals were a bit naff, but still very much enjoyable.
 
The only horrors I tend to like are based on Stephen King books, like The Shining etc. I'm not a great horror fan either. I just don't 'get' the fuss about zombie movies, and stuff like that.
 
Well, hate is a strong word but I genuinely dislike the horror genre in general. I've seen many but they all amount to be nothing more than useless crap. The story is mostly variations of the same, the characters are useless and the gore is pathetic.

The only horror movie I actually found decent was Silent Hill....if you'd even class that as a horror.

So, anyone fancy changing my opinion? Recommend me a scary movie that has a decent story and characters? I don't mind scary/jumpy/gory but story, well shot and good characters are what really does it for me.

coz you're not watching the right ones, Silent Hill ...meh 9/10 of anything made in the last decade is poop.

Scream a horror film? lol
 
Event Horizon. Love it! I love 'supernatural' horrors, or anything to do with heaven/hell really. Hellraiser etc, clive barker stuff.

Good call. Event Horizon is a great horror flick.

With regards to the "[REC]" or "Quarantine" question previously - I'd say go for "[REC]".

"Quarantine" is pretty much shot-for-shot the same film with American actors, however "[REC]" just gets ahead with slightly better characterisation and the finale is done much better than in the remake. I think "Quarantine" was unfairly bashed when it was released by the "all remakes are the scourge of the Earth" brigade even though it's almost a mirror image of "[REC]".



Lysander :

I saw Martyrs a couple of weeks ago and yes, the bark is worse than the bite. It's still a very good and effective horror movie - especially if you don't spoil the storyline for yourself by reading up on it.

I don't buy into the "people running out and vomiting during screenings" hype at all having seen it.
 
This one I heartily recommend:

À l'intérieur - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/

If you watch this Youtube clip, stop the Video at 1 minute as I feel they give away many aspects of the film. The less you know the better.

This film is pretty much guaranteed to make you feel uneasy. It's brutal. Definitely look into it.

Another I'd recommend is the Thai horror movie - Shutter. Stay away from the American remake.

Shutter -http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440803/
 
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I am the same. I get bored in horror movies. There so far have been 2 that I've enjoyed watching, 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later (saw this one first and 28 days was a lot better.)
 
Event Horizon. Love it! I love 'supernatural' horrors, or anything to do with heaven/hell really. Hellraiser etc, clive barker stuff.

Yep, good call, out on Blu-Ray next month I believe :)

And you have to add Hellraiser to anyones list of horror films, classic.

I also like In The Mouth Of Madness with Sam Neill.
 
This one I heartily recommend:

À l'intérieur - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/

If you watch this Youtube clip, stop the Video at 1 minute as I feel they give away many aspects of the film. The less you know the better.

This film is pretty much guaranteed to make you feel uneasy. It's brutal. Definitely look into it.

Another I'd recommend is the Thai horror movie - Shutter. Stay away from the American remake.

Shutter -http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440803/


Both great films, being done a sad disservice by the trailers, unfortunately.
 
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