I have no idea how anyone puts up with Nikon

D.P. · 14 Jan 2015 at 22:10

alexisonfire said:
To be fair i mentioned that, not him I like to think i know a fair bit about how dslr's work, but will admit i was under the impression the camera uses a selective area of the sensor for white balance measurement and then obviously algorithms sort out what the white balance should be after the photo is taken?

How is it done? Not trolling, genuinely interested.

How it is done is very much camera dependent

Shoei · 14 Jan 2015 at 22:30

If you really want to get best out of Nikon images (Raw files), then you need to use Capture NZ or the latest version. Adobe don't have full access to info from the raw file.

Danthus · 14 Jan 2015 at 23:37

Sample pictures here.

http://www.pauldoranpictures.com/

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 06:36

OldCoals said:
Sample pictures here.

http://www.pauldoranpictures.com/

none of those are Nikon

Columbo · 15 Jan 2015 at 07:38

Chimp Paradox said:
none of those are Nikon

Is that you then?

asim18 · 15 Jan 2015 at 08:12

Chimp Paradox said:
I am going through some old photos taken with my D5200 before I bought Canons 5dmk3. And they take so much work to get right! Odd white balance in particular that takes so much changing. The only thing I ever do on the canon is reduce vibrancy a little as the colours have so much punch. But honestly, if I shot Nikon Id live at my computer.

This is not intended to wind anyone up, I am just staggered how anyone shoots successfully with it, and of course many do! Including one of my all time faves Steve McCurry!

OP is a lie.

Statement A: "I am going through some old photos taken with my D5200 before I bought Canons 5dmk3."

Statement B: "But honestly, if I shot Nikon Id live at my computer."

If statement A is truthful, statement B should read "When I used to shoot Nikon I used to live at my computer".

Using "honestly" as a prefix to a statement typically suggests the statement will be dishonest.

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 08:34

asim18 said:
OP is a lie.

Statement A: "I am going through some old photos taken with my D5200 before I bought Canons 5dmk3."

Statement B: "But honestly, if I shot Nikon Id live at my computer."

If statement A is truthful, statement B should read "When I used to shoot Nikon I used to live at my computer".

Using "honestly" as a prefix to a statement typically suggests the statement will be dishonest.

Jesus dude move away from your gcse critical thinking textbook. I was not the capable of operating at that level back then, it was the least of my problems(!), so I never "used" to sit at my computer!

asim18 · 15 Jan 2015 at 08:55

Chimp Paradox said:
I was not the capable of operating at that level back then

So the reason your Canon images are better now is because you weren't capable of operating back when you had a Nikon.

Great. I've managed to pull out an admission of user error within a single post.

Too easy.

(Don't take me personally by the way, I'm just jumping on the flaming-bandwagon a little, and if you are TBL, welcome back

. I also like your new username )

Danthus · 15 Jan 2015 at 09:05

Chimp Paradox said:
none of those are Nikon

I know, I could tell by the colours.

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 09:54

OldCoals said:
I know, I could tell by the colours.

I agree - its very easy to see these are shot with a Canon. Vibrant colors (sometimes too vibrant) and contrasty. Class Canon look.

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 09:54

asim18 said:
So the reason your Canon images are better now is because you weren't capable of operating back when you had a Nikon.

Great. I've managed to pull out an admission of user error within a single post.

Too easy.

(Don't take me personally by the way, I'm just jumping on the flaming-bandwagon a little, and if you are TBL, welcome back. I also like your new username )

Wow, its like meeting David Blaine in real life

CGrieves · 15 Jan 2015 at 15:45

Chimp Paradox said:
dont worry i will move away from this thread now its generated such a backlash... had better go back to the forums where people are realistic about the pros and cons of cameras

To be fair everyone has been as "realistic" as your OP. Your thread title is basically "I have no idea how hundreds of thousands of professional photographers, and many users on this forum use an industry-recognised premium camera brand". How exactly did you think that was going to be received?

Perhaps it would have been more "realistic", not to mention reasonable to entitle the thread something like "Moved to Canon and am finding fewer white balance issues- discuss", or "Does anyone else prefer Canons auto W/B compared to Nikon?".

No, you decided to troll.

I shoot Canon DSLRs by the way.

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 18:52

Proper pros have retouchers dont forget

redline · 15 Jan 2015 at 19:30

What a mad thread! :eek:

I used my Nikon D5100 alongside my Canon 70D and have had NO issues with either, whether editing RAW or JPEG. Sure they both have differences, but I can't say one needs more work than the other, as it depends on the individual shot... in fact I prefer the cooler WB of the Nikon (which I have now sold, so I'm 100% Canon now) and will generally edit the Canon shots towards a cooler WB.

I would honestly say I have to do more correction with the Canon shots to get a perfect exposure balance (for what I'm looking for) over the Nikon, which seems to have a far greater latitude to keep things in balance... though it may down to my insistence on using the manual mode only

D.P. · 15 Jan 2015 at 19:30

Chimp Paradox said:
Proper pros have retouchers dont forget

Rarely

redline · 15 Jan 2015 at 19:32

What a mad thread! :eek:

I used my Nikon D5100 alongside my Canon 70D and have had NO issues with either, whether editing RAW or JPEG. Sure they both have differences, but I can't say one needs more WB work than the other, as it depends on the individual shot... in fact, on the whole, I prefer the cooler WB of the Nikon (which I have now sold, so I'm 100% Canon now) and will generally edit the Canon shots towards a cooler WB.

I would honestly say I have to do more correction with the Canon shots to get a 'perfect' exposure balance (for what I'm looking for) over the Nikon, which seems to have a far greater latitude to keep things in balance... though it may down to my insistence on using the manual mode only

Chimp Paradox · 15 Jan 2015 at 20:20

redline said:
What a mad thread!

I used my Nikon D5100 alongside my Canon 70D and have had NO issues with either, whether editing RAW or JPEG. Sure they both have differences, but I can't say one needs more WB work than the other, as it depends on the individual shot... in fact, on the whole, I prefer the cooler WB of the Nikon (which I have now sold, so I'm 100% Canon now) and will generally edit the Canon shots towards a cooler WB.

I would honestly say I have to do more correction with the Canon shots to get a 'perfect' exposure balance (for what I'm looking for) over the Nikon, which seems to have a far greater latitude to keep things in balance... though it may down to my insistence on using the manual mode only

Totally agree. Canon cripple their exposure. I hate it. every full frame camera nikon makes (at the d750 and above) shares the same excellent exposure system and spot metering that links that to your AF point. Canon, on the other hand, put in a not great exposure systems in the 5dmk3 - it should match the 1dx. the 1dx is also the only one which links spot metering to AF point. Omitting that from the 5dmk3 is a joke. And to be honest its the thorn in the side of the 7dmk2 too, which at least had a good metering system but still doesnt have spot with af point.

Still, all of this is preferable to the amount of work Nikon files need

JBuk · 15 Jan 2015 at 23:16

Chimp Paradox said:
Still, all of this is preferable to the amount of work Nikon files need

Having owned a canon 20d, 5d mki , Sony nex5n, Nikon d600 and a Nikon d800 I would say no system takes any more or less work than the others

Generally raw file importing can be more or less set to adjust everything to the users liking depending on the software being used, it takes hardly any time at all

Some files can take more work if you're aiming for a certain look but that is the same for any file from the various manufacturers

If you find it hard work then I would suggest you're not working efficiently

An Exception · 16 Jan 2015 at 14:25

Chimp Paradox said:
spot metering that links that to your AF point.

This is actually one of the biggest real world differences between the 'brands'.
I say one of, because if you shoot manual or still life it's not a big deal, but if you shoot in Av for something like a wedding, it makes a very significant difference.

Top Tip. (Lightroom)
Set saturation and vibrancy to max.
Colour casts should now be much more visible and easy to fine tune.
Right click, Develop settings, Copy only WB.
Select all other images in the scene (that is under the same lighting conditions) and paste.
Now all the pictures within the scene have perfect WB.

There are 3rd party solutions that speed up this already fast process further.

Adrianr · 16 Jan 2015 at 14:46

D.P. said:
Rarely

'Proper pros' is too broad a term really, but it depends on the industry. Advertising, fashion, lots of fine art photographers all very retouch centric. Weddings or events generally not.