I need advice for a new psu

Minibiker said:
My old man has the same CPU as you and its a great performer... Looks like you got a great system there and now with a great PSU will be immense...

I've just this second been fiddling with the cables in my wife's build to tidy it up a bit :p
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Haha nice! I really want my cables to be all tidy same goes for my apartment I have a little tick :D

Maybe I will upgrade to watercooling on my cpu so I can get out the big cooler I have now. I can't put more RAM in there because of the cooler...

But everything step by step, when it comes to watercooling I'm completly lost^^
 
ExosyZ said:
Haha nice! I really want my cables to be all tidy same goes for my apartment I have a little tick :D

Maybe I will upgrade to watercooling on my cpu so I can get out the big cooler I have now. I can't put more RAM in there because of the cooler...

But everything step by step, when it comes to watercooling I'm completly lost^^
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I would love to try watercooling but think I'll struggle... if I was to install watercooling I think I'd go for one of the A120 cool I kits..
 
Minibiker said:
I would love to try watercooling but think I'll struggle... if I was to install watercooling I think I'd go for one of the A120 cool I kits..
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If I will move on to "liquid cooling" (as the pro's call it haha), I will invest 200-300€ because I can't let my system die if something is leaking...
 
ExosyZ said:
So I can call the 1070 a mainstream graphic card? AMD is known for big power consumption although I don't know how it is with the ryzen and newer gpu's.
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Yep, 1070 is basically top of mainstream.
Reference card consumes ~150W at maximum. Though factory overclocked non-reference cards can draw towards 190W.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/24.html
Same die based GTX 1080 has also quite nice power consumption, but Titans/1080 Tis etc use lot bigger GP102 chip and have higher consumption.

Ryzen is very good when it comes to power consumption.
At stock worst case consumption is in class of 115W which is comparable to Intel's Kaby Lake with half the cores&threads:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-10.html
In Blender (3D rendering) it actually beats Kaby Lake i7 7700k in energy efficiency.

Vega is AMD's first actually new GPU architecture in half dozen years.
Fury cards, this years Polaris cards etc have all been tweaks and rehashes of same old architecture.
They surely must have known that bad energy efficiency in gaming load has prevented them from competing in performance costing them market share.
So I would expect Vega's architecture to have finally comparable energy efficiency to Nvidia cards.
 
EsaT said:
Yep, 1070 is basically top of mainstream.
Reference card consumes ~150W at maximum. Though factory overclocked non-reference cards can draw towards 190W.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/24.html
Same die based GTX 1080 has also quite nice power consumption, but Titans/1080 Tis etc use lot bigger GP102 chip and have higher consumption.

Ryzen is very good when it comes to power consumption.
At stock worst case consumption is in class of 115W which is comparable to Intel's Kaby Lake with half the cores&threads:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-10.html
In Blender (3D rendering) it actually beats Kaby Lake i7 7700k in energy efficiency.

Vega is AMD's first actually new GPU architecture in half dozen years.
Fury cards, this years Polaris cards etc have all been tweaks and rehashes of same old architecture.
They surely must have known that bad energy efficiency in gaming load has prevented them from competing in performance costing them market share.
So I would expect Vega's architecture to have finally comparable energy efficiency to Nvidia cards.
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Oh nice maybe in 2-3 years I will switch to a full AMD setup, hopefully they'll knock intel and nvidia out when it comes to power consumption.
 
With Ryzen, AMD have given Intel a kick up the backside and brought some competition to the market. That's why Intel is releasing Coffeelake earlier than planned and has expanded the X299 CPU range. Since 2011/12, the AMD CPUs available were pretty poor. The FX-8 series ran hot, hammered motherboard VRMs and couldn't really match an i5/i7 in performance. Ryzen is a massive improvement and it's energy efficient too.

It's only really some of the cheaper Corsair PSUs that I'd be wary of. They're AIOs are pretty good. The VS, CX and CXM series PSUs have cheaper internals, which is why we don't recommend them.
 
Borealis said:
With Ryzen, AMD have given Intel a kick up the backside and brought some competition to the market. That's why Intel is releasing Coffeelake earlier than planned and has expanded the X299 CPU range. Since 2011/12, the AMD CPUs available were pretty poor. The FX-8 series ran hot, hammered motherboard VRMs and couldn't really match an i5/i7 in performance. Ryzen is a massive improvement and it's energy efficient too.

It's only really some of the cheaper Corsair PSUs that I'd be wary of. They're AIOs are pretty good. The VS, CX and CXM series PSUs have cheaper internals, which is why we don't recommend them.
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I didn't know that the FX-8 were that bad, well at least they learned something from it.

Ah I see so it really comes down to the specific model. Still I'll wait for the next or next next generations of cpu's and gpu's to be released, upgrading doesn't make much sense now.
 
Yes, you've good a good platform for now, so there is no point in upgrading except maybe to an i7 6700K/7700K at some point if it's cheap enough. I built my dad a PC back in 2013 with an FX 6300, whilst I had an i5 4670K. The only thing it beat my i5 4670K at was photoshop, where it could take advantage of the extra cores despite the FX 6300 being faster.
 
ExosyZ said:
I didn't know that the FX-8 were that bad, well at least they learned something from it.
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They were worser than that.
Very weak single core performance falling big amount behind Intel in many games when tested at CPU limited settings (Xbit-labs used those) instead of GPU limited settings.
And then sucking lots of power under full load while still struggling to match Intel's top end quad cores:
http://techreport.com/review/24879/intel-core-i7-4770k-and-4950hq-haswell-processors-reviewed/7

Bulldozer actually had worser IPC (per clock performance) than its predecessor.
Just like eventually completely failed NetBurst/Pentium 4 architecture of Intel...
Which let AMD and Athlon 64 (also designed by Jim Keller) to similar performance and power efficiency lead as Intel gained after ditching that failed architecture while AMD screwed up with Faildozer.

Now Ryzen has 52% higher IPC than last Bulldozer rehashes making it quite similar as Intel's jump from Pentium 4 to Core 2.
Only thing keeping Ryzen from challenging Intel CPUs in every single area is manufacturing process limiting max clocks.
Power consumption wise boost/turbo clocks for couple cores could easily be past 4.5 GHz.
 
EsaT said:
They were worser than that.
Very weak single core performance falling big amount behind Intel in many games when tested at CPU limited settings (Xbit-labs used those) instead of GPU limited settings.
And then sucking lots of power under full load while still struggling to match Intel's top end quad cores:
http://techreport.com/review/24879/intel-core-i7-4770k-and-4950hq-haswell-processors-reviewed/7

Bulldozer actually had worser IPC (per clock performance) than its predecessor.
Just like eventually completely failed NetBurst/Pentium 4 architecture of Intel...
Which let AMD and Athlon 64 (also designed by Jim Keller) to similar performance and power efficiency lead as Intel gained after ditching that failed architecture while AMD screwed up with Faildozer.

Now Ryzen has 52% higher IPC than last Bulldozer rehashes making it quite similar as Intel's jump from Pentium 4 to Core 2.
Only thing keeping Ryzen from challenging Intel CPUs in every single area is manufacturing process limiting max clocks.
Power consumption wise boost/turbo clocks for couple cores could easily be past 4.5 GHz.
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Well we'll see what the future will bring.

I'm looking forward to some really out of space cpu's in the next 2 years :)
 
Got my psu today, the noise reduction is incredible. I can hardly hear my setup now. It's also pretty awesome that the psu has an eq-switch, my corsair had non of that and the cable management is a dream with the modular one.

Thank you for suggesting me this psu!

 
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