I need out of IT

[Mr^B]

+1

Although you could code something cool and show that to prospective emplyers... although that will only get you so far. I know someone who started in support, and in his spare time made a virtual web interface for diagnostics. Bosses loved it, took it off him but kept him in Support. Face it, its very hard to move around in IT end of

I haven't found it hard to move around it IT at all.

Started off as a systems analysis consultant. Moved into Business Analysis, then moved into development, then in to web development, then back into development (middle office), then more development (front office), then development management, then back into development (tech lead, scrum master). It's only difficult if you can't sell yourself, your ideas or your potential. Which, admittedly, some people find hard to do.

 

[elrasho]

Indeed selling yourself is something Im not that good at, but the proof is in my work. I dont mean to brag, but im one of the better ones when it comes to work place. Thing is there arent any openings, and if they are there they will almost always go to someone who has been there longer or has mates in the same dept (its like a popularity contest!".

Ive shown my skills and what im capable of, ive made them aware of how commited I am to the company and where i want to go but nothing comes of it. I could develop something really cool in my spare time that will benifit support, but all I will get is a pat on the back and get shown back to my desk. Its like "ffs will someone give me a chance!?"

 

[Relentless81]

But what you can put on your CV is whatever you learn FORM THE INTERNETZ LOL!!!!, you can build up a portfolio containing information on projects you've completed and such... seems to work well for web designers/developers and programmers.

Maybe if you bothered to learn FROM DAT INTERNETS LOL you wouldn't need such a thread?

But whatever... you're obviously not willing to work towards anything in IT, so ill shut up and let people spec you new easier jobs that don't require as much effort on your part

I think thats unrealistic, if I were looking at CV's I would be more interested in work experiance, not how much sitting in front of a computer and reading had been done

If you had read the thread properly you would notice I have an interview on Tuesday and I used to work in sales so selling isnt an issue, selling myself is, I am not a rentboy

 

[Sin_Chase]

So you expect a prospective employer to mind read you?

You will be selling yourself either way - it's your call if it turns out to be short.

 

[Relentless81]

So you expect a prospective employer to mind read you?

You will be selling yourself either way - it's your call if it turns out to be short.

I have just become a victim of my very bad sense of humour, for this I apologise

 

[daztrouk]

If your in a Support job supported non-IT people you get treated like muck. Only a few appreciate you. Its those in the specialised jobs like C# developer or Web Site Developer (and Im not talking Frontpage Express Im talking about coderz) who get the respect.

Wish I was in the game earlier, dialup came out when I was 16 if only I played less Goldenye on N64 and jumped onto the Internet bandwagon Id be much better off

You and me both m8. I was studying IT at the time in college, probably around 1997, and spent most of my time trying to chat up girls on yahoo chat half way across the globe,

 

[daztrouk]

I like the statement that you can go on the internets and learn, so what shall I put on my CV? "I learned from the internets"

Come on, be realistic

lol

 

[HangTime]

As a developer, why anyone would want to be a tester I cannot imagine. I HATE TESTING. Its just so repetitive and dull. Any decent developer will have their own unit tests, so when its handed off to a tester they often perform really boring end to end integration testing.

You can write the best code in the world and have perfect unit tests, but that doesn't mean the software if necessarily free from faults - misinterpreting requirements being a common cause. Also, it is extremely rare (in my experience) to find developers that do everything 100% perfect 100% of the time.

In terms of how to make testing interesting, I'm a big fan of James Bach's works (Session-based test management, exploratory testing etc): http://www.satisfice.com/

Testing is also more accessible (in some ways) that development as not all roles require a great degree of technical knowledge/skill, whereas it is much harder to find developer roles in that category. Some people do testing because they don't have the training/mentality/ability to be a developer.

As Smit suggested, I think it depends a lot on what industry you are developing for, what methodologies are being used, how much scope and responsibility testers are given, the mentality of other members of the team etc. Testing can be surprisingly rewarding under more agile models where your feedback is valued and acted upon - where it is not just a case of "Does function X work?" but more like "How can we make function X better?".

I suspect that, on average, development is fundamentally more rewarding than testing, but dev isn't for everyone.