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I need some help!

Mark112

Mark112

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Hello! So, I have set myself the task of Overclocking my CPU today. Its a AMD Phenom ii X6 1045t running at 2.7GHZ. I have played around and managed to get it to 3.38GHZ. After a lot of googling I toned down the NB to 2080mhz and the HT to 2080mhz (I read its best to keep these low).

However, I noticed the Max TDP on CPUZ said 93W, but on Core Temp it said 123w. I don't really understand what TDP means. Is it a case of the power goes up, heat follows but as long as I can keep the temps down its ok? After running Prime 95 for 30 minutes the temps were at 35.C

Am I even doing this correctly? I have an Asus M5A78L Mobo.

I am also worried that If I push the CPU to far, I might destroy my lovely new GTX 670.

Some of you are probably reading this and laughing at how much of a balls up I'm making but any help, anything at all and I would be very grateful!
 
Probably not going to be able to get much of an overclock, with that CPU it's all bus speed, and I can't see your board doing much.

Ballsing up the CPU won't kill your 670, but you won't be getting the most out of it as that's quite a bottleneck.

What CPU cooler?
 
I knew it would be a bottleneck but I wasn't sure how much. I'd love to buy a new CPU that wouldn't bottleneck it. Just out of interest how much FPS do you think I could be losing due to the bottleneck?

What CPU would you recommend that would match the GTX and not bottleneck it?

My cooler is a Asus Lion Square, always had very low CPU temps.
 
You'd need a new board to be honest, you could get an FX63 and clock it a little bit, but the 4+1 phase power design could be slightly annoying, I wouldn't throw an FX8320 in, because of how limited you are for clocking now, a 4.2GHZ FX6300 could be a decent improvement, but it'll still be a bottleneck, just no where near as big.

The FPS you lose depends entirely on the game. The temperatures you're seeing won't be real, Thuban was notorious for reporting it, AMD sensors don't give the actual temperature, rather some offset. So it'll report below ambient at idle etc.

See how you get on with the 670 and Thuban, I think you're looking at about a max of 3.2GHZ, and then push your CPU NB to the 2400 or whatever you'll get and leave HT at 2000MHZ then play a few games with MSI Afterburner with GPU usage being monitored.
 
You'll probably throttle with the FX8350.
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Which is why you'd need a new board, but if you were getting a new board, I'd personally go Intel.

FX6300 is probably your best bet and overclocked, but I really can't see it going too far, you're not exactly using a board designed for overclocking.
 
What would be the most amount you want to spend?

You're looking at quite a high start up cost for an overclocking Haswell system (300 quid), whereas an overclocking Ivybridge system is about 220 quid.
 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-470-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-437-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574

Even if you can find the stuff a little cheaper, I'd highly suggest getting it from Overclockers, their Customer Service is pretty much second to none at the moment.

Alternatively, you're looking at about 230-250ish for an FX8320 system with a decent overclocking motherboard, if gaming comes second to you and your main tasks are more heavily threaded, I'd probably suggest the FX8320 route.

For gaming, I'd pick the 4670K route despite the extra cost.
 
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So that would offer me hopefully no bottlenecks and ample room for overclocking?
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Haswell's a little so-so for overclocking, it's the most inconsistent chip going, I've currently gone mine buzzing along at 4.6GHZ, it can do 4.8GHZ with a little more voltage.

But you should hopefully be able to get an average 4.4GHZ with that CPU/Board, and that'll elevate the bottleneck.
Allows for Crossfire and you've got PCI-E 3.0.
 
Awesome! Thank you very much for you help, I do appreciate it a lot! :D

As for now, until I get my new board and CPU should I overclock my CPU like you said or just leave it as it is? (Practice for when I get the new stuff) Will I even notice a difference in gameplay if I do? And should I worry about the TDP?
 
I'd just leave the CPU as it is.
Overclocking the Intel will be quite a bit different, you're messing with bus speeds, you won't need to do that on the Intel.

For TDP with the Haswell I wouldn't worry, as it's fairly moot given Haswells temperatures due to the none soldered IHS.

For your Phenom II, I'd just ignore it, it's not going to change anything.
 
Before I forget, what CPU mounting do you have for your cooler? Do you have socket 1156 or 1155 mounting? (They're the same, and socket 1150 uses the same)
 
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