I need to have a rant.
- Thread starter Dervious
- Start date
Right.
I shall now commence another factory restore. I shall then allow the updates to happen in their own good time.
I take it that installing Avast antivirus before I connect to the internet should cause a problem ?
I await the response "oh, now you mention it. Avast is known to interfere with Vista updates !"
I shall now commence another factory restore. I shall then allow the updates to happen in their own good time.
I take it that installing Avast antivirus before I connect to the internet should cause a problem ?
I await the response "oh, now you mention it. Avast is known to interfere with Vista updates !"
I installed a machine with Vista Ultimate 64 Bit Service Pack One edition at the weekend.
On my fibre connection to a Q9550 machine it took nearly 12 hours all in to get it fully patched up, as an OS I don't have an issue with Vista, but the update system for it is seriously fubarred
On my fibre connection to a Q9550 machine it took nearly 12 hours all in to get it fully patched up, as an OS I don't have an issue with Vista, but the update system for it is seriously fubarred
Glad to hear it's not just me.
Half a day of your life to install an OS is a bit much.
It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to "babysit" it. I'm sure it is not too much to ask, or unreasonable to expect that Microsoft should provide a "one click and leave" option for those of us who have better things to do than to oversee updates on an OS.
I'm currently downloading a standalone Vista SP1 update (it looks like it'll take less than 10 minutes to obtain) in the hope that it might do what the supposedly automatic update system has failed to achieve.
What a joke. I'm a geek, and I'm getting baffled/annoyed/confused. No wonder I`ve had more than a few "normal" people coming to me with Vista systems that are totally ****** **.
OK. I`ve just run the standalone SP1 update download, and already my hopes are raised. There's a green bar, and it's advancing slowly. Slowly enough to make me believe that an update is actually taking place (rather than the rapid flash of green that takes place with auto update).
When is an automatic update not automatic ?
When you have to do it manually.
When is an automatic update not automatic ?
When you have to do it manually.
Just checked.
My mate's laptop is telling me that SP1 is about half way through, and that it might take an hour or more.
Strange how Windows update history is telling me that this service pack has already been successfully installed.
My mate's laptop is telling me that SP1 is about half way through, and that it might take an hour or more.
Strange how Windows update history is telling me that this service pack has already been successfully installed.
Generally speaking, the problem isn't really Vista, it'll be the install of Vista from the manufacturer. A fresh install from a clean Vista image will be many many times better than any manufacturer set up OS.
Every laptop I've owned, I've re-installed a stock OS on to it straight away because the manufacturer one is nearly always bad in some way.
Every laptop I've owned, I've re-installed a stock OS on to it straight away because the manufacturer one is nearly always bad in some way.
Why would the manufacturer's install cause trouble with updates ?
Yes, there's lot's of bloatware, but I have ways of dealing with that.
Get in there my son !
Just took a peek at my mate's lappy, and I'm seeing "Installing Service Pack 3 of 3" (after it rebooted itself).
So, 24 hours after I started the process, it appears that I`ve only got another service pack and no doubt 50+ updates to complete.
If I were charging minimum wage, he'd be well on his way to a new laptop.
Mind you, how stupid of me to expect the automatic update system to work.
Just took a peek at my mate's lappy, and I'm seeing "Installing Service Pack 3 of 3" (after it rebooted itself).
So, 24 hours after I started the process, it appears that I`ve only got another service pack and no doubt 50+ updates to complete.
If I were charging minimum wage, he'd be well on his way to a new laptop.
Mind you, how stupid of me to expect the automatic update system to work.
Control Panel > System......
Vista Service Pack 1
How silly of me to expect auto update to actually work.
Good job I didn't do what I was thinking I should have done in the first place, and delivered it back to my mate and said "it's ready, but you'll just have to do a few updates".
I hate you Microsoft. But I refuse to take a bite off the Apple.
Vista Service Pack 1
How silly of me to expect auto update to actually work.
Good job I didn't do what I was thinking I should have done in the first place, and delivered it back to my mate and said "it's ready, but you'll just have to do a few updates".
I hate you Microsoft. But I refuse to take a bite off the Apple.
Last edited:
Yes, and it's downloading now, along with 68 other updates, I assume.
Someone at Microsoft needs to get a grip.
NASA seem to be able to land Curiosity on a planet > 50,000,000 miles away, and then update it's software, but MS seem to be able to **** ** their software on this planet.
Last edited:
Earlier this evening, I downloaded Service Pack 2 (standalone version) in the hope that it would do the trick. It stated that it included all of the updates in SP1. I was more than hopeful. When I ran it, it told me that SP1 needed to be installed first.
What better way to sell your new product, than to make your old product worse than it was previously.
Update 57 of 60 is now installing. Over 24 hours after I started, and there's no doubt plenty more to do (which I doubt will go without a hitch).
Update 57 of 60 is now installing. Over 24 hours after I started, and there's no doubt plenty more to do (which I doubt will go without a hitch).
Microsoft have gotten a grip, you're installing something 5 years old so it needs a bucket load of patches to make it even vaguely secure. Try patching Windows 7, never had a hitch with it but like every OS there are always updates which is why people tend to slipstream them into the install disks.
To be fair, at least you're actually getting updates. Ubuntu and OSX releases from the same time period are long dead and buried.
Sitting and watching an RTM version of Vista grind away on a slow laptop drive installing years and years worth of updates is going to drive anybody nuts. Just do what the rest of us do and go do something else.
And, like I mentioned before, if that's the original drive it would not surprise me in the slightest if that disk wasnt 100% healthy, or even the RAM - have you run memtest?
Sitting and watching an RTM version of Vista grind away on a slow laptop drive installing years and years worth of updates is going to drive anybody nuts. Just do what the rest of us do and go do something else.
And, like I mentioned before, if that's the original drive it would not surprise me in the slightest if that disk wasnt 100% healthy, or even the RAM - have you run memtest?
I'm trying to install something 5 years old, and I certainly do expect it to take longer than it would have done 4 years ago (more patches). What I also expect is for the patch process to not throw a wobbly half way through. I have had to download and execute SP1 as a standalone file. Surely after 5 years, MS would have pretty well perfected the update process, and not required the user to "lift the bonnet" to get the thing working properly. After all, I'm not trying to install Vista onto a ZX81, and I`ve performed many, many XP/Win 7 installs over the past decade or so. I think I know what I'm doing when it comes to a (Microsoft) OS install, so I'm rather annoyed that I`ve had to "get my geek on" to get Vista to update properly.
I might be wrong, but running memtest would mean that I were getting BSODs or system hangs. I'm not. The machine was not crashing before or after the clean install. The reason I'm doing a new install is that Vista was in a continuous update loop which I couldn't solve.
I must admit that I haven't checked the hard drive. Having said that, there has been nothing to suggest that the drive is faulty. Surely a faulty drive would have "played up" in other ways, rather than just failing on Windows updates. If the drive were faulty, what are the chances of it causing faulty updates before and after an OS install (and no other problems) ?
And to be even more fair, I'm not expecting future updates, I'd simply like existing ones to install easily and correctly.