I Support the lorry drivers thread

FTM said:
its not just this govt..it every govt before them and every govt to come


you dont think just if Labour get voted out that everything will magically change do you?


the Tories have comitted to a 3p per litre reduction..thats it...3p per litre..how is that going to improve things?
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The overall tax burden is traditionally much lower under the Tories than under Labour.

So historically, I could certainly believe that this will be better with a party that doesn't think tax and spend is the best economic plan.

Unfortunately, the british public have a tendancy to be idiots where taxation is concerned, and often see tax cuts as a bad thing, preferring horrificially ineffiecient services that are 'free' and abdicating responsibility to the state for looking after themselves.
 
Global demand: Roughly 87 million barrels of oil a day.
Global production: Roughly 85 million barrels a day.
Slack in the system: Roughly not a lot.
Result? Prices must rise until demand = production.

Here endeth the lesson in free market economics. Get used to it folks. If the government cuts tax on fuel, UK demand will rise. If demand rises, so does the price. There's no easy way out, except using less fuel.

The same thing's about to happen to natural gas, and therefore our electricity and food prices. (Much of our electricity is generated via natural gas, and so is most fertiliser).

You have been warned. Start managing your budgets wisely now and you'll have some slack ready for the winter.

Andrew McP... hoping to be wrong, expecting to be right.
 
Since high fuel prices is something that affects the whole haulage industry I can't see how any one firm will "go to the wall", they just need to put their prices up to cover the additional cost. In the long term it might affect the industry as alternative methods of transport are found but surly that's a good thing?
 
Good for them... we need to be more like the French in standing up to being abused and taxed into oblivion by the authorities.

About time some more organisations involving the public for mass protests/convoys sprung up IMO.
 
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Seems like a steady increase, then suddenly massive increase/demand? Doesn't make sense to me, why would demand increase that much so quickly? I see price fixing, not demand increasing.
 
The only answer, and I've said this on Transaction-2007 as well...Is for the WHOLE country to have at least a weeks collective holiday.

THAT MEANS STAYING AT HOME AND GOING NOWHERE

In other words. ZERO fuel consumption. This equates to MILLIONS of pounds of LOST revenue to the government and the OilCo's.

Solidarity is the key. And thats the very thing Britain lacks.
The French & Italians know how to do it. French Fisherman are currently striking and the their government is offering rebates etc.

No.. Our stiff upper lip will FuXx0r us once again.
 
AJUK said:
They should blockade every road, bring the country to a standstill. That is the only way the the muppets in government will take any notice. Oh yeah, I forgot, they made peaceful protest that disrupts transport an offence under the terrorism laws. Fascist *******! :mad:
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Agreed 100%. The best (and only real feasible) method of showing the Government how serious the fuel duty rip off is would be for a majority protest that brings the country to its knees.

However canny law making has made that illegal as the protesters would be classed as "terrorists" and thrown into a dark hole for a few months.

Direct action is needed but it would need critical mass as then they couldn't arrest so many people under "terrorism" laws without upsetting causing mass civil dissent,
 
Outcast said:
THAT MEANS STAYING AT HOME AND GOING NOWHERE

In other words. ZERO fuel consumption. This equates to MILLIONS of pounds of LOST revenue to the government and the OilCo's.
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That would be good but apathy is our enemy. People like to moan but will do nothing about it!

As my previous post states more direct action is the key.

monkeyspank said:
Good for them, they are doing this for all of us.
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No they are doing it for themselves. I support them but everybody needs a rebate.
 
The sooner people get used to these prices the better they will never ever come back down only get worse. I bike into work ok that's not really appropriate if you work say over 15 miles away but anything less it is.
 
@ Slimwagh
I'm not !!

Although it has to said...
I was speaking to the office staff t'other day and asked them how the fuel increases are affecting OUR company. I was told "we're getting by but the customers are having heart failures".

I asked what he meant and he told me that (new) customers were ringing up and asking how much to ship a pallet (food) and were giving a figure of "X" amount and the customer said " Thats not bad" only to be then told....... "PLUS 12% surcharge" (fuel duty increases) to which they threw a hissy fit and said "I can get that cheaper elsewhere".

To which our sales replied "Off you go then" and put the phone down. ( Brutal - but to the point)

Half hour later they are back on the phone !! And this is the thing about fuel.. There is no way of escaping it.

What probably happened with the above customer is.... They went about things the wrong way.

EG: They produced their product.. Might be cakes or whatever... Thrashed out a deal with.. Say Tesco's... THEN went looking for quotes for transporting it. Tesco's ..or the ilk would have been laughing their heads off. The manufacturer should have made transport enquiries and included the surcharge in with THEIR quotes. Now the manufacturer has to deliver at agreed price and takes the hit re: lower profit margin.
 
Totality said:
I dont see what the problem is? Get a job closer to home to save on fuel and also save the environment? Everyone's a winner!
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:rolleyes:

I mean seriously, I have a rewarding career at the closest branch based in my area in my perfect market area which I hope to hold down for many years to come. I am not going to chuck that away to go work for company in the wrong field of work closer to me just because the government is forcing me too. I can't cycle because it's a round trip of 32 miles and I go to the gym every 3/4 days...I might aswell join the army if I did any more cardio! :p

I gather you cycle to work? or are lucky enough to live close to place of work?
 
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