I wish the EU would FOAD!

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Orionaut

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OH NOES! Your Vacuum cleaners are killing Polar Bears!

I don't suppose it occurred to any of these EUSSR technical geniuses that halving the power of vacuum cleaners means people might hoover for twice as long?? :rolleyes:

My 2Kw Hoover bag-less is great. I can do a whole room in less than a minute!

Just how much do these idiots think one can save in a year by limiting the power of, what is basically, a power tool! (Are they going to limit the power of other power tools too, such as drills etc?? :mad: )

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad:
 
The following will happen:

1. Vacuum cleaner does not remove dirt nearly as effectively.
2. Vacuum cleaner is used for significantly longer in order to capture all dust, hence using more energy than initially anyway.
3. Dead polar bears.
 
Monkeynut said:
The following will happen:

1. Vacuum cleaner does not remove dirt nearly as effectively.
2. Vacuum cleaner is used for significantly longer in order to capture all dust, hence using more energy than initially anyway.
3. Dead polar bears.
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That's exactly what the op said... :confused:
 
Well that sucks. Being a student I only hoover once a year (just before I move out), so I need something pretty powerful.
 
Who will hoover up all the dead polar bears, those buggers are pretty big?

Power ratings are pretty self limiting, people don't use powerful cleaners as much because they are so heavy. This is good for Dyson though, they have some pretty efficient smaller models.

Overall, using 2Kw for 10 minutes means nothing in the scheme of things, instead it's about time they put a cap on rich people leaving everything running 24/7 and offices leaving PC's on overnight.
 
There are a few things to point out, companies make NO effort to increase efficiency without a shove, sometimes a threat is what is needed. IE companies make the cheapest most powerful thing they can rather than go for efficiency, this is wasting power. EU threaten them saying they must be cut by 500W in the next 3 years, this leads to investment in efficiency increases of the motor and innovation in "sucking" up things using less power. They might not hit 500W reduction, but if they all find a new way to do it that saves 300W of power...... is that not a good thing?

There is overly anal regulation, but there is also industry laziness and targets/reductions being a driving force of genuine innovation. Who knows where this comes, somewhere in between most likely.

There is also some argument that as generally we use more and more electrical devices and more and more power then limiting the maximum output at any one time isn't a bad thing to consider. Long term we will have problems generating enough output. Likewise renewable sources are better at providing lower power levels for longer periods than peak output. IE you'd be hard pushed to run anything in your house with a 2.4kw solar panel system at the same time as a 2.2kw hoover, but a 1-1.5kw hoover and maybe the lights all won't go out at the same time.

Realistically in terms of draw on the grid, while everyone using half as powerful hoovers would reduce the peak draw from the grid, the likely increase in time spent hoovering would mean a higher chance of more people hoovering at the same time and a similar overall draw anyway.

Meh, I believe most of these regulations are very overly anal/pc/stupid, but I fully recognise most industries will absolutely ignore things like using more environmentally friendly production or efficiency without being forced into trying at the very least.

If no industry tries to improve efficiency, it genuinely isn't good for the environment, a shove is a good idea, actual harmful changes aren't a good idea.

But you'll find most of these things are targets that are somewhat unrealistic that force companies to try and then 5 years later the targets are adjusted to be more realistic, again it's a way to force the companies hand to try their best.
 
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This is good for Dyson though, they have some pretty efficient smaller models.
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Trouble is, go to any dump!

You will see skiploads of dead Dysons!

There is absolutely no point in having "Efficient" machinery if it is at the expense of durability and reliability (Or even ease/cost of repair!)
 
Cant wait for the diesel vacuum cleaners to come in and save the day, swallowing up your entire carpet with all its mega torx.
 
Excpect more of the same, eu needs to cut power usage.
Such things are good, as said itll be revised down or extended timeline.
Its not just co2, think of energy security, other pollutants etc.

Did we lose light levels with the lightbulb phase out. Not realy. And not only are the bulbs more effecient that last ~10years. Meaning less raw materials, less processing energy etc.
 
Glaucus said:
Excpect more of the same, eu needs to cut power usage.
Such things are good, as said itll be revised down or extended timeline.
Its not just co2, think of energy security, other pollutants etc.

Did we lose light levels with the lightbulb phase out. Not realy. And not only are the bulbs more effecient that last ~10years. Meaning less raw materials, less processing energy etc.
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My energy efficient bulbs cost several times the price of a standard bulb, give poorer light, don't seem, to last as long and don't some of them contain poisonous chemicals such as mercury?

I've stocked up on old style bulbs because I hate the new ones.
 
Hades said:
My energy efficient bulbs cost several times the price of a standard bulb, give poorer light, don't seem, to last as long and don't some of them contain poisonous chemicals such as mercury?

I've stocked up on old style bulbs because I hate the new ones.
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Have you tried Halogen bulbs?
 
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