I5-6400 to 3600 ?

[2Drunk2Funk]

UserBenchmarks show 3600 (would be paired with tomahawk max) as a big jump in performance.
Son wants faster PC for his gaming (mostly Fortnite).

Would he notice big boost?

Would use existing crucial vengeance ddr4 2133 16gb for now.
I would also look at a M2 SSD upgrade to go with cpu/mobo

Plays 1080p on a 144 screen with a 1060 6gb card.
He reckons Fortnite drops to 50 fps a lot and choppy.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

UserBenchmarks show 3600 (would be paired with tomahawk max) as a big jump in performance.
Son wants faster PC for his gaming (mostly Fortnite).

Would he notice big boost?

Would use existing crucial vengeance ddr4 2133 16gb for now.
I would also look at a M2 SSD upgrade to go with cpu/mobo

Plays 1080p on a 144 screen with a 1060 6gb card.
He reckons Fortnite drops to 50 fps a lot and choppy.

memory would cap it . fortnite isnt heavy on cores but core speed. if you were looking to keep 16gb DDR4 which is plenty for gaming then

dual core boost is 4ghz with all cores at 3.9ghz . at 1080p gaming on 144hz monitor it would be equal or slightly better then 3600 non X .
cheapest z390 which is still damn good would allow say in future slapping in a second hand 9700/9900k etc

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-9400F 2.90GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Z390 UD Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99

Total: £259.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)


https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i5/i5-9400f​

going 9600k with a decent cooler , enabling M.C.E to run 4.8/9ghz all cores would land around - this would beat ryzen at 1080p with fortnite- but 1060 6gb might not allow to to stretch its legs as much say if it was paired with a 1660to/2060

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte Z390 UD Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99
• 1 x Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £229.99
• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken ECO Advanced CPU Cooler - 120 mm= £29.99

Total: £369.97 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Going ryzen, need to push 3000hz ram kit - as you'll just be shooting yourself in the foot, specially at 1080p, which is CPU bound

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £184.99
• 1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £99.95
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £79.99

Total: £364.93 (includes shipping: £0.00)


least you've got options. techincally GPU upgrade gets the most FPS and min FPS average.

seems with fortnite and kids, having the minimal lowest FPS is the key to not dieing early - though that could just be down to skill and not hardware lol​

 

[2Drunk2Funk]

Really appreciate that feedback, thanks.
I wanted to future proof a little with Ryzen route. He would happily buy more suitable memory although he may be upset with me as I advised him to buy the 16gb 2133 memory 6 months ago to get past the 8gb he had. 2133 was fastest his current mobo would take.
He has a 500 PSU which would not handle the Intel path AFAIK.

Silly question maybe, when you say 1080p is cpu bound, do you mean the 3600 will be limiting factor?
My assumption was a 1060 6gb is fine for 1080p and if he wanted to go 1440 at some point he could get new monitor and gfx card that would happily sit with the 3600?
Again, thanks for info, trying to get best bang for buck as he using his own hard earned cash from part time job

He is pretty good at Fortnite, him and his partner recently got to a last 12 from a starting 600 in a competition... he blamed PC for getting him killed lol, more likely the opponents

 

[clown_abhi]

Wouldnt recommend investing in Intel atm. If possible to sell existing parts definitely go for the Ryzen with 3200MHz RAM and you will be all set for future upgrades.

Usually at 1080p, if you want smoother frame rates, CPU should be good for that. The higher the resolution the more dependence on graphics card.
Ryzen 3600 would be great for both so an excellent upgrade.

Though. One thing to note is he may get say 10% average framerate increase as the GPU stays the same but the stutters due to old architecture will be gone and it will be a lot smoother. The minimums will also go up quite a lot.