i7-5820k Questions

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:35

Maybe, but Id take 12 cores on a much better platform any day. If you want to build a 1080p games console for over 120Hz gaming then you buy Intel.

A 7640X is probably the way to TBH.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:35

Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Slower is still slower, less head room when gpu's get faster.

This. Volta will expose the weaker cpu.

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:36

gavinh87 said:
This. Volta will expose the weaker cpu.

In DX11 at 1080p maybe.

Born_2_Kill_83 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:38

jigger said:
Maybe, but Id take 12 cores on a much better platform any day. If you want to build a 1080p games console for over 120Hz gaming then you buy Intel.

A 7640X is probably the way to TBH.

Games won't make use of 12 cores for a long long time yet, it's wasted un-used money gaming on that cpu.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:39

jigger said:
In DX11 at 1080p maybe.

Got a list of dx12/vulcan games coming up?

Born_2_Kill_83 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:40

jigger said:
In DX11 at 1080p maybe.

It isn't till 4k you stop seeing cpu benifits in games, 1440p is a sweat spot using both cpu and gpu.

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:41

Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Games won't make use of 12 cores for a long long time yet, it's wasted un-used money gaming on that cpu.

Yeah the Ryzen 1600 and 6700/7700k makes as much sense for gaming with a DX11 card as anything else.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:42

jigger said:
Yeah the Ryzen 1600 and 6700/7700k makes as much sense for gaming with a DX11 card as anything else.

We've seen the benchmarks, the 1600 doesn't come close.

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:49

The argument is spend as much as possible on the graphics card as the CPU performance is less important. The fastest graphics card currently available is DX11 and that code path can't scale with cores. 4 cores is probably overkill so you want the fastest highest clocking 4 core you can buy. In born to kills case the cheapest too.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:54

Even dx12 likes a fast CPU

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 10:59

Pretty sure that's a DX11 based game with a DX11 card running some extensions. Take a look at the Kaby i3 7100 performance. Dual cores love Nvidia drivers running DX11 code.

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 11:16

gavinh87 said:
Even dx12 likes a fast CPU

Interesting benchmark that. It's almost like Nvidia have started marketing for Intel. Switch to an AMD card and the results are very different.

darket · 15 Oct 2017 at 11:22

DrYip said:
I left the cpu input voltage to auto and it fluctuates around 1.904-1.92v. What would be the upper limit? 1.95v?

As for overclocking the ram, doesn't it affect the bclk along with the overclock on the cpu? My ram is currently at 2400 mhz. Timing (15-15-15-35-1.2v)

Don't leave voltages like Memory , input and vcore on auto, its asking for trouble on any platform , set these manually. And no, Overclocking the ram won't effect the bclk. When x99 was in its infancy high memory speeds needed different bclk dividers to work, this is no longer the case, just make sure you're on the latest bios revision.

And to reiterate what i said earlier, nothing you buy right now (unless your obsessed by benchmarking) with give you any tangible performance gains over what you have now. Sure if you have money to burn go for it, new tech is fun.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 12:09

jigger said:
Interesting benchmark that. It's almost like Nvidia have started marketing for Intel. Switch to an AMD card and the results are very different.

Whilst that might be true, if you want the fastest GPU you have to go nvidia.

Unless AMD can do something special with navi, those who want the fastest will be going to intel/nvidia.

jigger · 15 Oct 2017 at 12:10

At 1080p with a 1080Ti. If Nvidia are twisting the results you're better off going all AMD if the main reason for buying a PC is gaming.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:13

jigger said:
No the arguments you make are flawed. What's wrong with my server board? And the 290X is just about holding up, although it is due upgrading.

You speak of intel being anti consumer and misleading yet you actually own probably the most controversial board in modern times. (Artificially locking xeons to a specific chipset)
You say intel are only decent at 1080p ;

Even in dx12 titles at 1440p, games still like a fast CPU. When GPU's are fast enough not to bottleneck at 1440p this gap in CPU performance is going to increase.

Vince · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:49

who spends 4k on a rig to play at 1080? surely those with 1080ti/vega and a 1k cpu like a TR/i9 would be pushing 4k resolutions?

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 13:57

Vince said:
who spends 4k on a rig to play at 1080? surely those with 1080ti/vega and a 1k cpu like a TR/i9 would be pushing 4k resolutions?

High refresh rate gamers. I and many others would take 2k 144hz over 4k 60hz.

Vince · 15 Oct 2017 at 14:28

gavinh87 said:
High refresh rate gamers. I and many others would take 2k 144hz over 4k 60hz.

Ahh fair play. I think for me I would prefer 4k 60 but then put up with a little tearing at 4k in games like cs, horses for courses I guess.

gavinh87 · 15 Oct 2017 at 14:39

Vince said:
Ahh fair play. I think for me I would prefer 4k 60 but then put up with a little tearing at 4k in games like cs, horses for courses I guess.

Have you tried 144hz or above?
It really is something you need to try.
A lot of people discredit it without trying it.

This looks to be a good monitor http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/acer-delays-predator-x27-4k-hdr-gsync-monitor-to-next-year.html

I've started to prefer ULMB over Gsync lately.

Though driving that will take a lot of GPU power.