i7 7700k Kaby Lake Review

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 20 Dec 2016 at 10:22

IvanDobskey said:
7700k will clock to 5ghz. No way zen is going to do that.

Will it? Where have you read that?

IvanDobskey · 20 Dec 2016 at 11:54

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Will it? Where have you read that?

Most reports have it hitting 5ghz at around 1.35v.

eddiew · 20 Dec 2016 at 13:41

So not terrible, but not really anything shiny either...

Still, my 2500k seems to be slowly losing its ability to overclock, so I won't be sad if all Kabys turn out 4.8+

DragonQ · 20 Dec 2016 at 15:35

IvanDobskey said:
7700k will clock to 5ghz. No way zen is going to do that.

Yes, one in twenty might clock that high. So what? Intel CPUs have been touted as "clocking to 5 GHz" since Sandy Bridge. The quad cores typically get to 4.6-4.8 GHz for most, I'll believe any change in that when I see it.

Basically it gets very slightly better performance per Watt (except when idle where it is an actual noticeable improvement), and clocked way higher out of the gate. The only way it is any different from the i7-6700K for 99% of people is if it clocks a fair bit higher on average.

IvanDobskey · 20 Dec 2016 at 15:42

I think most 7700ks will hit 4.8ghz with a large portion able to do 5ghz.

Of course i am only going on early reports. But I'm pretty confident in this from what i have read.

Now i have to decide whether to go 7700k or 6800k or wait for Ryzen.

Bit of a dilema

Harlequin · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:00

96 degree`s underload oO - this the new intel space heater edition?

Freddie1980 · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:13

mmj_uk said:
The main trouble it will have is Zen 4c is likely to be a lot cheaper due to the lack of any integrated GPU, the only way 7700K is going to stay relevant is if Zen are comparatively poor overclockers or if Intel slash prices. I doubt Intel can match AMD prices with a GPU onboard though, not without making losses.

Agreed. For Intel it really heats up AMD gives up the Zen based APU's, the GPU on those will most likely crush anything Intel can come up with on there mainstream K series.

Harlequin said:
96 degree`s underload oO - this the new intel space heater edition?

Read the de-lided thread, Intel have been caught using rubbish TIM/toothpaste again.

Harlequin · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:15

The first AMD AM4 APU won`t be ZEN based - A12-9800 is Excavator v2 and DDR4

MooMoo444 · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:21

4770k seems good enough for now, I think I'll be sticking on what I got.

SiDeards73 · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:30

Freddie1980 said:
Agreed. For Intel it really heats up AMD gives up the Zen based APU's, the GPU on those will most likely crush anything Intel can come up with on there mainstream K series.

Read the de-lided thread, Intel have been caught using rubbish TIM/toothpaste again.

Even many enthusiasts wont delid a CPU, i know you can buy tools etc to do it, but some people get scared at the thought of cracking the lid off a £350+ chip lol.

Intel skimping on the thermal paste is a bit of an insult really

Harlequin · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:33

Freddie1980 said:
Read the de-lided thread, Intel have been caught using rubbish TIM/toothpaste again.

many people wont risk a very expensive cpu to try this - anyone offering the `service` puts a damage disclaimer.

its a high risk activity

IvanDobskey · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:46

No way would i risk delidding a £350 cpu.

If the tim is really that bad on final retail chips, i may look elsewhere for my next cpu.

stephenb · 20 Dec 2016 at 16:47

I'm sure OCUK will be binning and offering some sweet bundles for those after the 5Ghz+ chips.

mmj_uk · 20 Dec 2016 at 17:20

Doesn't that Delid-Die-Mate make delidding really easy? does it support Kaby Lake?

chilipeppersc · 20 Dec 2016 at 17:31

Funny thing is most would pay that bit more for decent thermal paste usage by Intel. I can't believe they use such poor stuff!

Disco_P · 20 Dec 2016 at 17:46

mmj_uk said:
Doesn't that Delid-Die-Mate make delidding really easy? does it support Kaby Lake?

yes and yes

Drollic · 20 Dec 2016 at 19:31

chilipeppersc said:
Funny thing is most would pay that bit more for decent thermal paste usage by Intel. I can't believe they use such poor stuff!

Catering for the masses. Most of them don't care.

wellibob · 20 Dec 2016 at 19:49

Intel is now all about profit. No competition forces this. Best you can get so it is what it is. Sad times really.

itchy · 20 Dec 2016 at 20:21

Another drip from the Intel nipple teat. :rolleyes:

If AMD don't pull it off with the Zen its game over for the PC CPU market.

I want to buy a new machine, but my old i2500k at 4.8ghz is still strutting its stuff, it has its quirks like it only boots to bios and I have to cancel and not save default now but I can live with that.

MatTheCat · 20 Dec 2016 at 22:32

~>Dg<~ said:
so how fast is zen ?

What AMD demonstrated, will be Ryzen's very best performance against Intel.

If the following article can be taken at face value:

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/55544/amds-next-gen-ryzen-benched-against-7700k-6900k/index.html

Then it would seem that Ryzen with it's 8 cores and 16 threads can out compete the 7700K with its 4 cores and 8 threads in some departments, but be beaten in others.

I suspect that the bottom line is, that the intel CPUs will still have faster single threaded performance and IPC, and will beat AMD core for core, GHz for GHz in the vast majority of tests and benchmarks.

For most PC users, the intel chips will offer the better experience. AMDs selling point will have to be more cores and more future proofing at the same price point as Intel offers less cores, less threads, and less future proofing.