Ideal frames per second for ANY game?

To those who crave the 60+ fps treatment. Do you care about graphics? If given the choice between max detail at 25/30 (average fps) or a constant 60fps on low detail, where would you go?
balls said:
The Human eye sees 25ish fps max, so between 25-30 is all you need, but I don't play with fraps running to see my framerate all the time.
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I feel for you mate, I really do. An easily made assumption (I believed the same thing as you no more than five minutes ago) which you didn't deserve to get slammed for, certainly not have your intelligence questioned (personal attacks anyone? :rolleyes:)

That said, I feel saddened that it took five posts slating him until someone kindly explained the difference between frames seen in a film and those in a game.
 
well my refrash rate is 60 so anything around there really :p

although css is usually 160+ so i generally stick on ass loads of AA and af
 
My ideal minimum fps is whatever the maximum refresh rate is for the monitor at that resolution.

However, I can put up with as low as 45fps in driving games, and even less in strategy games. For FPS that I am well in tune with, sub 75fps feels a bit jerky.
 
60fps constant is great though Crysis is a unique exception in that even 25fps is very smooth.

Bizarre.

If crysis somehow disabled fps counters then nobody would guess 25fps was 25fps I bet.
 
Killerkebab said:
To those who crave the 60+ fps treatment. Do you care about graphics? If given the choice between max detail at 25/30 (average fps) or a constant 60fps on low detail, where would you go?I feel for you mate, I really do. An easily made assumption (I believed the same thing as you no more than five minutes ago) which you didn't deserve to get slammed for, certainly not have your intelligence questioned (personal attacks anyone? :rolleyes:)

That said, I feel saddened that it took five posts slating him until someone kindly explained the difference between frames seen in a film and those in a game.
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im with you on this, give the guy a break, and aren't i right in saying the human eye has NO frame/rate full stop since your eyes are absorbing a constant stream of information, therefore there is no 'frames' :confused: i did A level in biology and stuff but can't say we ever went into this :rolleyes:
 
25FPS is not always good anyway.

FPS is an average of frames per sec....hence the first 0.5 of a second may have 20 frames and the 2nd half of the second may only have 5 frames...this is would result in jerky picture, and this is veyr possible.

More is better!
 
HeX said:
Crysis is an odd one, even though the FPS is generally far lower than any other game it still maintains its playability, I don't think there is annother game out that I would play and still feel comfortable at the framerates I was getting.

Everything else it needs to be 30fps+ at all times minimum, preferably in the 60+ as I play with Vsync and I hate it when games drop below 60fps and my framerate is slashed. :mad:
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I find the same thing, 30 FPS and sometimes less, would be unplayable in other games, but in Crysis it's do-able.
 
50-60fps is great for me.

I really don't know how people play FPS (Eps Crysis) at ~15fps. Looks like a powerpoint slide show to me.
 
"I get 160+ fps in CSS with my card.
Bit ott really!"
Sure is more so for an LCD’s which cannot even display that many FPS. Most monitors only display 85fps max and LCD's are often limited to 60 to 75fps. Some high end CRT can dislay up to 100 or 120fps and even fewer can display 150 to 200fps.
 
Pottsey said:
"I get 160+ fps in CSS with my card.
Bit ott really!"
Sure is more so for an LCD’s which cannot even display that many FPS. Most monitors only display 85fps max and LCD's are often limited to 60 to 75fps. Some high end CRT can dislay up to 100 or 120fps and even fewer can display 150 to 200fps.
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Proof? I can easily get 200+ fps on my LCD, or does fraps lie? ;)
 
his point (although expressed using his usual annoying quoting style) is that the monitor only refreshes at 60Hz. Fraps knows nothing about what your monitor is displaying.
 
Ah that's an interesting point. Hmm, does that mean theres no point having above 60 fps on a 60Hz monitor? If so how come I can notice a difference between 60 fps and ~150 on my 60Hz monitor? /Confused
 
honestly not sure, I think it may be to do with what Ace Modder said. The FPS is an average over a certain time period, it could be fluctuating up and down from 30 to 120 and still have an average of more than 60.
 
“Proof? I can easily get 200+ fps on my LCD, or does fraps lie?”
Fraps doesn’t lie but your LCD does. You’re on 200fps with vsync off, but your monitor is limited in displaying as many FPS as the hz rating. If the monitor is at 60Hz as most LCD’s are then the max FPS your LCD can show is 60fps. Like wise a 75hz LCD can display a max of 75fps.

When your FPS are over the hz rating what you get is the LCD rendering half or less than half of 1 frame, dropping the rest of the frame starting the next one, stopping that frame before it’s done and starting the next one e.c.t That’s why you get tearing with Vsync off.

It’s also why I perfew CRT’s over LCD’s. Your FPS are to limited with LCD’s.
 
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