Idiots and merge in turn

[[TW]Fox]

You mean a year and three months ago?

Ah, my mistake, I thought it was March 2011. Point still stands, however.

That wouldn't be you lying and twisting the truth to make a point again, would it?

Nope - a simple mixup of dates which makes absolutely no difference whatsoever to the point at hand. Feel free to try and sieze on it though

The date you said it makes no difference at all to the point being made.

Perhaps you also missed early on in this thread when Fett first asked, that I have since been educated on the matter, and no longer hold this view.

How convenient - thats a load of rubbish, I bet you've always driven like that and just forgot you'd preached about it when you decided to post here

 

[MikeHiow]

Oh, I see. If I had made a mistake (and I have, many times) you'd rip it apart, much like when I didn't use an exact date when mentioning how long I had owned the ST - the argument went on for several pages IIRC.

You mess up a date and I'm supposed to just let it go that you did not think I'd remember the date myself? What was that you were saying about hypocrisy?

I had not forgotten at all, that thread was what prompted my change of heart.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Oh, I see. If I had made a mistake (and I have, many times) you'd rip it apart, much like when I didn't use an exact date when mentioning how long I had owned the ST - the argument went on for several pages IIRC.

You mess up a date and I'm supposed to just let it go that you did not think I'd remember the date myself?

It depends if the date is critical to the post really doesnt it? The ST argument was because you were trying to lend credence to a point you were making by saying how long you'd had the car for or something.

Plus forgetting how long you'd owned a car for and misreading a date on an internet thread are two different things.

I know you are desperate to try and claw this as some sort of victory but really, it makes no difference whether you said it last week, last month, last year or 10 years ago - you said it.

I had not forgotten at all, that thread was what prompted my change of heart.

Gosh yes, of course.

 

[MikeHiow]

You'll notice my rather subdued tone in the thread, and how I did not follow through with the argument.

You know better than anyone that I'm unlikely to drop something I'm set on.

You're simply attempting to make it appear that way in an effort to discredit this thread.

 

[BF-Bert]

Simple answer is that if you were going 70 it wasnt a merge in turn situation, thats only for slow moving/stationary traffic.

 

[Housey]

I see 6 pages, anyone?

 

[Blackhawk47]

I see 6 pages, anyone?

This thread is so boring though.

 

[DM]

This thread is so boring though.

That could all change though, i see another good one brewing

 

[peterattheboro]

You just encountered yourself.

Hahaha!!!

 

[MikeHiow]

I'm not convinced this isn't just another troll thread looking for attention/a rise from people anyway.

Looks like I did manage to shave the speed off I thought I needed to, but missed where the speed limit changed.

I can live with 3 points and £60.

 

[Tute]

57? Unlucky, a couple more MPH and it might well not have triggered.

 

[Will Gill]

not sure why you have blurred the time?? and unless you have changed the plate on the renault we all know its ex54csf

However I can't ebelieve they nicked you for 57mph, that sucks

 

[Morba]

That's right on the ACPO guidelines unlucky, kinda.

 

[ubersonic]

So I was travelling down the A12 today, and there is a small stretch of dual carriage way where at the end there is a merge-in-turn. I opt to use all of this merge in turn, until some idiot decides he's going to accelerate when I'm pretty much already past him.

Not usually an issue, the Clio was a fair bit faster, the real annoyance came when I discovered a speed camera at the end. I slowed down back to the speed limit after that encounter, but where the camera is on single carriageway, the limit is 60 - so not only would I have had to shave off the speed from the overtake, but an additional 10MPH as well. There is seconds in it, but my gut feeling is that I was still over.

I require no sympathy - I was just having a rant. That'll be my first speeding ticket in 6 years

I don't wanna give you false hope, but technically as you were caught on camera performing an evasive manoeuvre (accelerating to avoid a collision with a dangerous driver) you may be able to use that, accelerating while being overtaken is against the highway code, thus the dude was guilty of dangerous driving and you were taking measures to avoid him hitting you so you may be able to use that as a possible defence depending what mood the magnesite is in (assuming you fight it to court ofc)

You should allow for what the other driver should do and for what if he does not - you didn't.

Oh come on, he had overtaken the guy and the dude floored it to try and undertake him back and mike almost ran out of road getting in front of him, its not that foreseeable and its not the type of thing you can take a minute to weigh your options on either. When you driving down a single carriageway road in your truck do you do an emergency stop every time something comes the other way? the other driver should drive straight and not drift into your lane, but what if he does? (yeah I know im being silly but its kinda my point)

 

[killsta]

I don't wanna give you false hope, but as you were caught on camera accelerating to avoid a collision with a dangerous driver (accelerating while being overtaken is against the highway code, thus he was guilty of dangerous driving) you may be able to use that as a possible defence depending what mood the magnesite is in (assuming you fight it to court ofc)

What?

Not indicating when coming off a roundabout is also against the highway code, am I also guilty of dangerous driving?

 

[Aero]

MikeHiow might be work requesting a copy of the traffic regulation order as since its a 50mph section of road it will require one. Google it for more info.

EDIT: Childkiller

 

[ubersonic]

What?

Not indicating when coming off a roundabout is also against the highway code, am I also guilty of dangerous driving?

Oh very funny, if you read the highway code it states:

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

So although it would be at the discretion of a witnessing officer if he wanted to take any action, it is classified under the letter of the law* as a dangerous driving manoeuvre.

Not so funny now eh?


*Highway code instructions (i.e do this, you must, never) are the law unlike the recommendations (i.e should not)

 

[stoofa]

EDIT: Childkiller

What an amazingly original thing to say - ranks up with writing M$ but if that's what floats your boat.

Note: Yes, I know he wrote it as sarcasm and it's as "sarcasm" that I'm having a mini-rant against.

 

[killsta]

Oh very funny, if you read the highway code it states:



So although it would be at the discretion of a witnessing officer if he wanted to take any action, it is classified under the letter of the law* as a dangerous driving manoeuvre.

Not so funny now eh?


*Highway code instructions (i.e do this, you must, never) are the law unlike the recommendations (i.e should not)

What the highway code says is irrelevant, go and have a look at the definition of dangerous driving as per the RTA.

Just because he accelerated does not mean it was automatically dangerous.

 

[ubersonic]

What the highway code says is irrelevant, go and have a look at the definition of dangerous driving as per the RTA.

Okay

*leaves*

*returns*

Yup I was correct

A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if:

(*) the way he drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competant and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous

I think as a competent driver is required to know/understand the highway code, it would be obvious to one that a manoeuvre prohibited by said code and also described specifically as dangerous by said code should therefore not be executed.