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If 3rd Gen Threadripper requires a new motherboard, will you still upgrade?

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For those X399 owners, assuming the rumours are true and you'll need a new mb to use 3rd Gen TR will you still upgrade or has this put you off?

I was hoping to drop in a 3rd gen chip, but I really don't want to spend ~£400 on a new mb. I think I'll take stock and see what other options come about...hmmm.

I knew X399 would come to an end at some point but was hoping it would have taken up to a 3rd gen cpu in its lifetime.
 
I think there will be chips that will work on x399 myself with new chipsets that offer pci-e gen4, 8 channel memory etc and will take the "higher end" of the lineup, basically segmenting the TR lineup.
 
Yes. AMD has somewhat spoiled us with the Ryzen line-up. If you’ve bought new Intel for years you always needed a new motherboard. If the performance of TR 3rd Gen I’d enough to justify the upgrade, then i would buy a new CPU and Mobo.
 
If I have to change board I may buy the new Intel 10XXX series now prices are down, x299 boards are cheaper, CPU likely to have stronger in single thread due to clocks, we know the Intel memory controller can take high clocks, so I don't see a reason to stick with AMD, unless I can drop a chip in my x399 board or 3rd gen can miraculously get higher clocks to beat Intel.

I do derive more joy out of the tinkering involved in getting performance out of the system more so than using the system :D and as AMDs are quite lame on stock settings generally I might buy another just to waste my evenings arsing about in the BIOS (no joke, I enjoy this, I have just been RAM tweaking my daughters 2400G to get the most out of it :D )

I thought about dropping a 2xxx in mine but it was such a poor spec bump, it didn't seem worth the bother. Should the prices of 2950x drop that might be an alternative option but lack of compatibility is probably going to limit that scenario as there won't be a glut of outdated chips about.
 
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No. Well, not yet at least. I think my current system will be good for a few years yet. Another reason is I'm in the middle of my Ph.D - a cpu upgrade would be fine but I don't really want a motherboard and the associated pain of an OS re-install right now.
 
ketma said:
For those X399 owners, assuming the rumours are true and you'll need a new mb to use 3rd Gen TR will you still upgrade or has this put you off?

I was hoping to drop in a 3rd gen chip, but I really don't want to spend ~£400 on a new mb. I think I'll take stock and see what other options come about...hmmm.

I knew X399 would come to an end at some point but was hoping it would have taken up to a 3rd gen cpu in its lifetime.
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We do not know if TR 3000 CPUs aren't compatible with X399. What we know is the new motherboards aren't compatible with TR1000 & TR2000.
 
I'm on the fence. I'm still rocking gen1 TR 1950x and it's perfectly fine for my requirements along with my x399 Taichi. I game at 4k or 1440p (depending on the title) using a radeon 7. I'm more of a casual gamer so it's perfect for my gaming requirements and is even fine on the likes of competitive csgo, pubg, golf it and what ever other stupid game the group of people I game with throw at me. For ESXi and the projects it now works perfectly when I need to boot into that and I have all the resources I need there. Really any upgrade from this point is for some fairly marginal gains in things that aren't really that important to me. On the other side of the fence, new and shiny toys.
 
Panos said:
We do not know if TR 3000 CPUs aren't compatible with X399. What we know is the new motherboards aren't compatible with TR1000 & TR2000.
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I'm fully aware of that, my question was if you do require a new mb will you still upgrade?

AMD could quash all rumours in a simple tweet, without giving anything away, simply by stating '3rd gen will work on X399', but the silence doesn't help nor instill reassurance.
 
ketma said:
I'm fully aware of that, my question was if you do require a new mb will you still upgrade?

AMD could quash all rumours in a simple tweet, without giving anything away, simply by stating '3rd gen will work on X399', but the silence doesn't help nor instill reassurance.
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Depends what I would be doing with the TR1000/2000 CPU if had one. Gaming is the only excuse for the upgrade, or if someone wants faster NVME RAID.
 
It does seem a little odd that x370 has lasted an extra generation but x399 wont. I was hoping to upgrade and get rid of one system and consolidate two into one, if the idle power draw was low enough. If i have to change motherboard aswell then all options are open, especially as the next upgrade after this would also include ddr5 therefore would liley be a lot more expensve.
Another irritating thing is that at work we specced a threadripper system for the drop in replacemnt of next gen CPU. Seems we could have gone X299 now.
 
ketma said:
I'm fully aware of that, my question was if you do require a new mb will you still upgrade?

AMD could quash all rumours in a simple tweet, without giving anything away, simply by stating '3rd gen will work on X399', but the silence doesn't help nor instill reassurance.
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That's not how giving nothing away works.

It's not a released product and speculation will affect existing products so there's no incentive to say a single thing in reply to rumours.
 
While I look forward to the improved IPC gains I don’t have a compelling reason to upgrade

Do I really need more cores, nope.
Do I need massive amounts of RAM, nope
Do I see PCI 4.0 as a “must have”, nope

I do hope we see compatibility with TR4 but I’ll be skipping this generation anyway
 
Hotwired said:
That's not how giving nothing away works.

It's not a released product and speculation will affect existing products so there's no incentive to say a single thing in reply to rumours.
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Well it won’t be speculation if AMD confirm one way or the other, that would end speculation.

I’m only on a 1900X so it’s upgrade time for me whatever, the only question is upgrade to a cheap 2nd hand 2950X with a simple CPU swap or the mainstream Ryzen lineup with associated hassle of motherboard replacement. Still not sure.
 
It looks as TR will offer EPYC light chips so those could be a cut off point. It will be interesting to see what the new motherboards offer alongside the two branches of chips.
 
HEADRAT said:
While I look forward to the improved IPC gains I don’t have a compelling reason to upgrade

Do I really need more cores, nope.
Do I need massive amounts of RAM, nope
Do I see PCI 4.0 as a “must have”, nope
Do I need Shiny, Shiny, YES !
I do hope we see compatibility with TR4 but I’ll be skipping this generation anyway
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FTFY :p
 
If you want PCIe 4 and fast memory speeds for Ryzen 3000 then you have to get X570. You can use X470 (for example) for the core operation of the CPU, but you don't get the new features. Same deal for Ryzen 2000 on X370. This shows that the Zen 2 chiplet design can still work on previous boards.

I honestly think it'll be the same deal with Threadripper 3000: you can drop it into X399 for core operation, but if you want PCIe 4, the faster RAM support and the increase in PCIe lanes then you need TX40. And if you want 8 channel RAM goodness then you need TX80/WX80.

Threadripper's popularity was a genuine surprise for AMD, I really don't see them risk pulling an Intel and enforcing a new board unless it's actually necessary.
 
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