If I said to you...

rubberduck · 25 Sep 2018 at 18:33

Better than the barber paradox if I am honest.

jakedude182 · 25 Sep 2018 at 20:43

quick thoughts:

you can tell the truth about being a liar.... but that truth is solely about accepting that you are a lier, and the lie is another entity altogether:unrelated..... And so, telling the truth means nothing... And to add salt to the wounds of lieing, 'now i have lied about being a lier' refers to the previous 'i am not a lier' and so this whole scenario is not such as bigger deal as it seems. .... since the lie in question, is of little significance :confused:

Participant · 25 Sep 2018 at 21:05

ttaskmaster said:
Most likely - Just say 'Thank-you', take my XL Bacon Double Cheeseburger meal off you, wind the window up and drive away...

Oh dayuuuuum....

adidan · 25 Sep 2018 at 21:18

You're Schrödinger's cat.

Well, that answers that then, it's alive.

ttaskmaster · 26 Sep 2018 at 14:30

touch said:
The paradox in his post is "I am lying". It's a contradictory self-reference.

Only if he's standing.

Trollvester Trollone said:
Better than the barber paradox if I am honest.

That's easy to solve!!

Participant said:
Oh dayuuuuum....

Too much, do you think?

unwashed potato! · 26 Sep 2018 at 18:12

I always lie

that's what the op should have said

FoxEye · 26 Sep 2018 at 23:21

Fairly sure the answer is no said:
I always lie

that's what the op should have said

Is that even a paradox? It's a statement that can never be true, sure. But it can be false, and then everything is fine.

TNGL · 26 Sep 2018 at 23:57

Reworded the OP to remove the ambiguity. At one point I thought somebody was going to enter their boxing stance over the wording.

weringo · 27 Sep 2018 at 06:06

You sometimes lie

glenimp617 · 27 Sep 2018 at 08:46

InvaderGIR said:
Ironic.

Never believe everything you read on the internet

SexyGreyFox · 27 Sep 2018 at 10:23

TheOracle said:
Never believe everything you read on the internet

I still waiting for his examples since it was aimed at me.

glenimp617 · 27 Sep 2018 at 10:26

SexyGreyFox said:
I still waiting for his examples since it was aimed at me.

I'll get the popcorn ready then

SexyGreyFox · 27 Sep 2018 at 10:46

TheOracle said:
I'll get the popcorn ready then

Yes, I can't wait, if he thinks I lie (*) he must have the most dullest life ever - a candidate for nobody knowing who he is when he wins the Lottery

* I don't doubt I get things wrong
eg I once said on here that I saw Led Zeppelin at Earls Court twice in 1976 and they called me out as being a liar because it was 1975

Roar87 · 27 Sep 2018 at 11:13

I think calling this dumb example of a word game a paradox is a bit of a stretch

GreenMint · 27 Sep 2018 at 14:55

Schrodinger's liar...

occuda · 29 Sep 2018 at 17:04

Tingle said:
If I said to you that I always lie. Am I a liar or am I not?

After all, I am telling the truth about being a liar... But if I am telling the truth, I am not a liar... Now I have lied about being a liar.

I would have to ask.

How long have you been in politics?

new boy · 29 Sep 2018 at 17:55

Hilly said:
If you had phrased it as such: "I always lie" - it would be more of a paradox, because that sentance in itself is also a lie, even if you're telling the truth.

Not really a paradox still. The statement is a lie, because you sometimes lie but sometimes tell the truth.

muon · 29 Sep 2018 at 18:39

It's not a paradox. The world does not blow up when I say it.

As others have said, you can simply be selective about when you lie.

TNGL · 29 Sep 2018 at 19:00

I do not think the example given of the liar's paradox in the OP has been understood. What if it was presented in the form of:

"This sentence is false"

There is no sometimes, selectiveness, occasionally etc to be had in this instance.

muon · 29 Sep 2018 at 20:04

Tingle said:
I do not think the example given of the liar's paradox in the OP has been understood. What if it was presented in the form of:

"This sentence is false"

There is no sometimes, selectiveness, occasionally etc to be had in this instance.

But that's not referring to something real so isn't a paradox. It isn't incongruous with it's existence. It just makes no sense.

See if you can phrase it as a real world example, like a hypothetical person the OP was trying to do.