If Sega made a new console would you buy it?

[Phatjayunoi]

It would be a console to offer more arcade ports than any other console that's what it would have over other consoles I believe.

Yep, and if we live in a perfect world and Sega was the Sega of Year 2000, then their console would some have of the best games support ever seen from the actual manufacturer themselves. But seeing as this is reality, this is never going to happen.

Even then, Sega's Arcade released games have dwindled a lot, seeing as the industry is semi-dead, apart from within Japan obviously but even then it's not as great as it used to be.

We just need Year 2000 and pre-Sammy merger Sega to come back! And of course more gamers to appreciate them!

 

[maxilive]

IF Sega made a console now it would instantly die, which is a shame

~I've owned all of the Sega consoles and still do! Really enjoyed the Sturn (daytooooonaaaaaaaa lets fly away!). I always remember playing sega rally etc at the beach arcades when I would visit my grandparents and I couldn't believe when the Saturn was out that I could actually play it at home as much as I wanted! Loved it.

Same with the Dreamcast, Shenmue is my favourite game just because it was trying to push gaming much further than it had ever been pushed before, if only they didn't blow how many millions trying to do so

I hope they are working on Shenmue 3 or something similar, Yakuza is great and all but just doesn't have the same feel as Shenmue.

 

[orderoftheflame]

Generally I'd get a new console anyway at some point, but I'd definately get a new Sega machine.

The Dreamcast was way ahead of anything else when it was release.

However, on the flip side like others have mentioned. Sega now isn't what Sega was. They've been out the game for too long.

 

[Lightnix]

I think SEGA might actually have something up their sleeves with the arcade games they're not releasing for consoles (SEGA Rally 3 (!!), 2Spicy and Border Break, for example). Hell if they made an actually good Sonic game for a next-gen SEGA console and secured a few exclusive third party titles, along with some of these arcade titles it'd be a hit at least amongst the remaining fanbase (which going by the 10 million dreamcast sales in 3 years evidently isn't a particularly small one). Or, another potential example might be an exclusive true sequel to Guilty Gear XX, which would basically secure my purchase provided it were good.

Not to mention SEGA usually innovates in some way to secure sales and at least a memorable console for those who owned it, the Dreamcast for example being the first console with internet connectivity and online play as standard (Chu chu rocket).

 

[Logsi]

Well it depends if it was good or not!

If it was deemed to be a failure then no, but if it had some new features and great graphics/gameplay then yes!

It's a shame i never really investigated the dreamcast when i was younger. I never really heard much about it and the PS2 took all my attention with tekken tag tournament! The first time i ever saw that game i was in awe!

 

[2StepSteve]

Depends on the amount of good quality games and graphics the console has.

It takes a good 2+ years for a new console to lay down it's grounds, it isn't easy and probably more difficult than ever right now.

I remember being in comet waaay back in Jan 1996 I was looking at both the PS1 and the Sega Saturn on the shelf, not sure what to get I decided to go for the Saturn. I thought there would be no way Sony (who were new comers to consoles back then) would know what they were doing or get any decent backing of game companies. I enjoyed my time with the Saturn don't get me wrong I had a blast on some great games! But I always felt that I made the wrong choice and that the PS1 with its sheer number of games had an edge over the saturn's slightly better graphics.

Theres no reason why Sega couldn't make and launch a succesful console, if they did I'd hope they would change their image of sonic though, it has been beaten to death and isn't 'cool' oldskool anymore.

Lack of money is why this probably won't happen though, so much money needs to be chucked at a console platform for it to work breaking even can take years.. thats why only the bigboys still stand and are still making consoles. They can afford to chuck money at it until it works!

 

[orderoftheflame]

It's a shame i never really investigated the dreamcast when i was younger. I never really heard much about it and the PS2 took all my attention with tekken tag tournament! The first time i ever saw that game i was in awe!

Same here. I'm annoyed I missed it first time round.

Decided to make up for it though.

 

[Dup]

If they can re-create the Dreamcast then yes, I would. I loved my DC and I loved the fact is was a little bit different and brought that little hardware step-up from the mighty PS2. It's just a shame it was limited by it's game format and lack of developers/publishers staying onboard. IT was also rife with ease of Piracy with boot loaders. It stared some great game franchises though and I still have one somewhere. It was also the first console I went online with, Chu Chu rocket ***!

 

[Random Guy]

Given the right factors (price, software support, spec) ****in A I would buy it!

 

[Robert1986]

Why would Sega want to make a console and limit their software sales to that 1 system. They already have the PS2, PSP, DS, Wii, 360 and PS3 market to sell to. They have a better chance making money selling their games on the current available systems.

 

[Buffman]

Depends if they started making better titles, Sonic 06, unleashed, black knight I'm looking at you! If it had jet set radio on I'd be tempted .

 

[AHarvey]

Best thing Sega could do would be to make a console along the lines of the Wii.

Nothing advanced, a decent basic system that they could make a profit on.

Bang a TB HDD in to it, and suplpy it with a load of the older sega games. Make it fully multiplayer compatible with a really good system for digital downloads both from sega official servers and 3rd party servers. Make the system so that anyone can write games or apps for it and it would be a winner.

They wouldn't have to release any games for it other than republishing older games, they make a profit from the console and due to being open source there would be no need to have it chipped/cracked and fans can release games for it themselves.

By allowing 3rd party server connections it would mean Sega wouldn't have the massive costs of hosting everything themselves and would allow people to customise the groups they connect to!

 

[orderoftheflame]

Why would Sega want to make a console and limit their software sales to that 1 system. They already have the PS2, PSP, DS, Wii, 360 and PS3 market to sell to. They have a better chance making money selling their games on the current available systems.

I think it's more of a hypothetical question.

Best thing Sega could do would be to make a console along the lines of the Wii.

Nothing advanced, a decent basic system that they could make a profit on.

Bang a TB HDD in to it, and suplpy it with a load of the older sega games. Make it fully multiplayer compatible with a really good system for digital downloads both from sega official servers and 3rd party servers. Make the system so that anyone can write games or apps for it and it would be a winner.

They wouldn't have to release any games for it other than republishing older games, they make a profit from the console and due to being open source there would be no need to have it chipped/cracked and fans can release games for it themselves.

By allowing 3rd party server connections it would mean Sega wouldn't have the massive costs of hosting everything themselves and would allow people to customise the groups they connect to!

No offence intended, but have you been smoking something?

Open source code?
Allow any unverified apps?

Seems like heaven for piracy.

Who's going to develop games where there's no profit? Who's going to buy a console with no new games?

 

[AHarvey]

No offence intended, but have you been smoking something?

Open source code?
Allow any unverified apps?

Seems like heaven for piracy.

Who's going to develop games where there's no profit? Who's going to buy a console with no new games?

Sega will make profit on the original sale of the console just as nintendo did with the Wii. They could easily release older games for it.

The point I am getting across is that there are thousands of people out there that would write games for it, and why pirate it if the majority of games are fan based games or mods of other games.

Game developerers are interested in the newest systems only, the PS3 and 360, they want to make shiny pretty games and the majority of them are rubbish. Most wanna-ba games developers can't afford the kit and licences needed to develop for these consoles. If someone came along and offered them a cheap solution to get their games made and out there I imagine many would jump at the chance. Not to mention, Sega can not compete with sony or microsoft.

If the community development side takes off there will be no need for Sega to really bother with any other games.

 

[panthro]

The Dreamcast was so good, so much better than the PS2, but it still failed in sales compared to the PS2. I dont know why, but if Sega brought out a console that's relatively as good as the Dreamcast, then theres no doubt in my mind that I would buy it. It had a great mix of 2D fighters (marvel vs capcom 2, capcom vs SNK for example). Plus Time Crisis and House of the Dead really sold it for me.

Plus Shenmue and Shenmue 2. If Shenmue 3 is ever released, I will buy whatever console is necessary to play it!

 

[Apopcalyptic]

Whilst I like the concept of this thread, it's a little bit stupid. It's a bit like asking 'If Atari made a new console, would you buy it?' or 'If Fairy made a new dishwasher, would you but it?'. Sega have long since been driven out of the market by some poor marketing choices, and are now a content provider only really.

 

[AHarvey]

^^ yeah but there is nothing wrong with a bit of speculation and idea bouncing

 

[Wiggis]

The dreamcast was an amazing console, far ahead of its time and still stands up well against the last gen, i.e. ps2, xbox, and in fact the Wii.

It was just not supported enough. Which is a real shame!

 

[tbz_ck]

I gave my Dreamcast away as a prize in a kids raffle, but I kept hold of Shenmue and Shenmue 2 for sentimental value (and because the scrote that won it would wreck it within a few months.....and he did)

So I still have the original Shenmue and Shenmue 2 which I guess I should sell to a good home.

Mmmmmm how much could they fetch I wonder?

lol £50 on the bay!!!

 

[orderoftheflame]

Sega will make profit on the original sale of the console just as nintendo did with the Wii. They could easily release older games for it.

Don't they need some kind of gimmick that opens it up to "casual gamers" to grab sales like Nintendo did with the Wii and DS? No matter what old games they bundle with it, it's unlikely going to grab the interest of everyone to pull off that kind of sales.

The point I am getting across is that there are thousands of people out there that would write games for it, and why pirate it if the majority of games are fan based games or mods of other games.

Again, the whole hosting issue here. Who's going to host all these games? You say not Sega so that they save money, so who then?

Where's the profit in it for 3rd parties to make it worth their while? Obvious answer would be stick ads in the games. No thanks. I'd rather pay for a game then suffer ads. And if there produce a paid for versions without ads they'd be pirated.

Along with this comes the quality control... Are you just going to let everything be released without censorship?

90% of good games and programs would be missed or drowned out in the sea of other crap out there. Even with censor ship there'd be tons of crap titles. Ever looked at the iPhone app store?

Game developerers are interested in the newest systems only, the PS3 and 360, they want to make shiny pretty games and the majority of them are rubbish. Most wanna-ba games developers can't afford the kit and licences needed to develop for these consoles. If someone came along and offered them a cheap solution to get their games made and out there I imagine many would jump at the chance. Not to mention, Sega can not compete with sony or microsoft.

If the community development side takes off there will be no need for Sega to really bother with any other games.

This idea has been around for a long time

Ever heard of Net Yaroze or XNA? More than affordable for a "Wannabe Developer" if they're serious about it.

Better still, why not go and develop some indie games for the PC, that's free!

There's hundreds of games from small developers on steam, and from other sources.

Some of the houses that produce good ones get noticed, and get funding allowing them to spread further.

Ever heard of a PopCap Games? They started off tiny, and have got loads of games on XBLA and steam now.

They've got a little casual title called Bejeweled, 25 million units across all platforms now I believe. And a lot of their other stuff is selling by the boat load too.



It's nice to see some ideas bounced round, but I just can't see any thought put into yours at the moment. I think you're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.