If the charges aren't dropped....

I feel sorry for him, but he should have known better.

Having had to teach classes of little gits, I can safely say that no matter what they tried to do to annoy me, I never wanted to try and kill them.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8145486.stm

then I think that all teachers should go on strike.

Teaching, especially senior school with the obnoxious teenagers which seem worse nowadays than they were twenty years ago has to rate as one of the hardest jobs around.

No wonder he was stressed.
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You seriously think teachers should strike to support this guy? He hospitalised a student. Regardless of how obnoxious the kid was putting him in critical condition in hospital isn't really good teaching practice.

The teachers would be pretty retarded to go on strike to support this guy.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
No wonder he was stressed.
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That's not an excuse for "attempted murder". Part of being a responsible adult is self restraint. If he was provoked then that should be a mitigating factor in any setence that he's given - but lots of people get stressed, and most of them don't try to kill people. He's responsible for his actions like everyone else.

I would like to think it's fairly obvious that if you're finding your job difficult or can't cope then the correct response is to get help or just leave - not to start trying to kill people who are annoying you. As for dropping the charges, that's obviously a bit ridiculous. It's not as if he swore at them or something, if he's found guilty then that's because he tried to kill someone.
 
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No. That's a cop out. Force society to deal with those who refuse to behave in a way which is acceptable to the majority of society. Am I talking about the pupil or the teacher ? - depends fundamentally on the reputation of the pupil and the teacher. Which of them has earnt the greatest trust and respect amongst society ?

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just play the mental card, and sue the school and education govermental body.
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It's one thing to murmur agreement and sympathy in the staff room, but it's something else entirely to officially support someone facing a charge of attempted murder of a child.

As adults [and perhaps parents], we have a tendency to side our sympathy towards the constantly harangued, near-powerless teachers of this nation's children, but until details of the incident are revealed, we're all playing the assumption game.
 
Got to agree with everyone here. If you've got an unruly pupil, you seek assistance from other teachers or the police. You don't hospitalise the guy. Basic common sense. The only valid exception would be if you genuinely believed you (or other pupils) were in immediate risk of losing your own lives.

Even in the unlikely event that the charges do get dropped, he'll never teach again - too much of a risk.
 
Not to mention striking is normally used to put pressure on the employer. In this case the employer will have little or nothing to do with if charges are pressed or not. That would be up to the Police, the CPS and the boys parents.

Do you really think it is a good idea to try to use trade union pressure to influence criminal charges?
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Teaching, especially senior school with the obnoxious teenagers which seem worse nowadays than they were twenty years ago has to rate as one of the hardest jobs around.

No wonder he was stressed.
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Yeah, teachers should be allowed to beat pupils to death, after all - these kids are satans own you know!

:rolleyes:

I would be suspended for saying what I think of you for that drivel.
I just hope you are never allowed within a mile of children.
 
RDM said:
You seriously think teachers should strike to support this guy? He hospitalised a student. Regardless of how obnoxious the kid was putting him in critical condition in hospital isn't really good teaching practice.

The teachers would be pretty retarded to go on strike to support this guy.
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Agreed. This guy should have got assistance from higher ups.


Anyway, you can control a class of unruly teenagers without the need to resort to violence.
 
This gives a bit more info than is currently on the UK websites:

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A British teacher snapped and smashed a teenage student in the head with a 2kg metal weight after being heckled to a Michael Jackson tune, reports claim.

Science teacher Peter Harvey, 49, is being held on suspicion of attempted murder over Wednesday's assault of 14-year-old pupil Jack Waterhouse at a school in Mansfield, north England.

Now more details have emerged about the assault, with Jack's classmates telling British newspapers Mr Harvey allegedly belted the teenager with metal weight before shouting: "People are going to die".

The incident is said to have begun when a female student swore at the married father-of-two and tore a page out of a textbook.

Mr Harvey reportedly then kicked the girl's bag and told her, "If you damage school property, school will damage your property".

The exchange is said to have prompted other students in the class to taunt Mr Harvey by singing "I'm staring at the psycho in the mirror" to the Michael Jackson hit "Man In The Mirror".

When Jack then swore at Mr Harvey, it was reportedly the final straw causing the teacher to allegedly pick up a metal weight from set of scales and drive it into the boy's head.

"Apparently he ran up behind Jack and got him in a headlock," a classmate was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying.

"He … dragged him into a back storeroom then is said to have hit him on the temple with the weight.

"There was blood everywhere — Mr Harvey had completely lost it and was saying people were going to die."

The teenager was left lying in a pool of blood and taken to hospital with life-threatening head injuries, but his condition is now said to be improving.

Two other students received minor injuries as the class piled on top of Mr Harvey to stop him from further hurting the teenager, the reports claimed.

Internet pages set up after the incident have been flooded with messages offering support for teacher.

"I don't believe for one second he meant to hurt anyone," one wrote.

Another described Mr Harvey as a "legendary teacher" who "would talk to himself a lot" but did not appear to be violent.

Police did not comment on the progress of the investigation other than to say they were still interviewing witnesses.
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Jeff Lynne said:
The guy was off with strss, came back to work and was riducled by the little angels. No wonder he snapped.
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And you really believe that makes it okay... :(

I hope you aren't a teacher...


Hellsmk2 said:
ran up behind Jack and got him in a headlock, ... dragged him into a back storeroom then hit him on the temple with the 2 kg weight.

"There was blood everywhere — Mr Harvey had completely lost it and was saying people were going to die."
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Oh yes, this man should not be charged for what he has done! What a HERO! :) Heck, we should give all teachers a weekly quota of kids heads to cave in, to help them relieve stress.
 
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the teacher should have kept hes cool, simple as that. i dont care how annoying any of my kids are or disruptive. does not give the teacher the right to lay a hand on them.

he should change hes profession.

you remember that incident that happened on a train a while ago, something about an off duty firre arms officer on a train?
 
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