Which looks like what really happened, when pushed anyone can have a moment of complete mentalness.
If the charges aren't dropped....
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Which looks like what really happened, when pushed anyone can have a moment of complete mentalness.
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That is no excuse.
Anybody supporting this guy really needs to look at what actually happened - A grown man lost control and committed attempted murder against a child.
Any union support strike action would be committing political suicide.
And you really believe that makes it okay...
I hope you aren't a teacher...
Oh yes, this man should be supported and even rewarded for what he has done! What a HERO!Heck, we should give all teachers a weekly quota of kids heads to cave in, to help them relieve stress.
of course it isnt ok, but there is probably a huge amount of mitigation,
he has obviously lost the plot, and he will end up in a secure hospital on a section 37/41
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most people with children, when they hear of how the teachers are abused, want the children to be punished far more than they are, otherwise there is no deterrent, and for those who respond to this with derision,
look at society in its current form, and then compare it to society 20-30 years ago
Theres a limit to what humans can take, if there was more control and less siding with the kids this would have been avoided.
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What do you mean by that though?
So braining one of them with a 2kg weight is the right way to deal with it?
If the article is correct then he is actually guilty of attempted murder. Even if it isn't it looks very much like he is actually guilty of assault. And you think other teachers should come out in support of him?
You don't really expect your teachers to be capable of such things. There were quite a few kids I would have loved to have given a good hiding to, but to actually do it is completely retarded - I'm an adult and they're kids. Being annoying is what they do.
Looking at the wider picture, where do we draw the line here ...
How much tax are you willing to pay, to ensure that every child, whether they can be or want to be, is educated ?
It would appeat that the only way to teach some of them, is individually, with at least one security detail attached to them constantly, to ensure their safety and that of the person educating them.
Personally I am not willing to fund the costs of that, with my tax money.
Education is a privilege, not a right ... at some point, that privilege is taken away by society.
How much tax are you willing to pay, to ensure that every child, whether they can be or want to be, is educated ?
It would appeat that the only way to teach some of them, is individually, with at least one security detail attached to them constantly, to ensure their safety and that of the person educating them.
Personally I am not willing to fund the costs of that, with my tax money.
Education is a privilege, not a right ... at some point, that privilege is taken away by society.
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Seems obvious to me the guy is ill, He WILL beable to claim temporary insanity, and I feel he should. As it looks to be the case. Leaving the school due to stress, returning to have a psychoskitzout, Seems very likely this guy was driven too far, and snapped. Especially considering the things said about him.
I've worked in a school, Kids can be ******* and more so because they know staff have no real powers, They will push, they will abuse, they will ignore and they have driven this guy to the edge and past it.
He does need to pay for his actions, But they were most definately the actions of an Ill, Stressed and unstable man.
I've worked in a school, Kids can be ******* and more so because they know staff have no real powers, They will push, they will abuse, they will ignore and they have driven this guy to the edge and past it.
He does need to pay for his actions, But they were most definately the actions of an Ill, Stressed and unstable man.
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I don't think he did.
He was shown disrespect and provoked by one person. Then turned on by everyone else in the room, one of which made himself the centre of attention, The teacher then grabbed the nearest thing and hit him with it. He didn't attempt to murder anyone.
Likelyhood is that he shouldn't have been put in that situation given his previous ill health but there is no way that he should be charged with attempted murder.
If the kid pulls through fine then they should both apologise to each other, then as has been said the kid will think twice before being a gobby little turd and the teacher should be pensioned off.
The truth.
I agree with that. I'd never want to be a secondary school teacher. It's simply a losing battle with some kids. I do admire those with the stamina to try.
the kids were clearly little ****s but the teacher was also clearly a bit mental - its perfectly normal for someone under the sort of pressure these teachers are no doubt under to snap, maybe start shouting/swearing or banging the desk - no doubt some need time off for stress etc...- but smashing someone over the head with a metal weight isn't really a normal reaction to stress and probably means they have a screw loose.
like or not, corporal punishment had its uses, there was more respect in society, it seems to me that nowadays that nothing is off limits,
kids beating up the elderly, stabbing passers by,
and to put the cherry on the cake, the litigation culture.
eg. its not my son's fault he killed someone, or took drugs, he was bored, didnt have anywhere to hang out at night blah blah.
its not my daughters fault shes up the duff at 12,,,,the school didnt tell her about sex,,,,,wtf
need i go on
b4 someone says it, there are shining examples of the youth of today admittedly, and i genuinely take my hat off to them,
and while we are on the subject, people complaing about soldiers being killed in the armed forces wtf
the population voted in the government ie the chief of staff,,,,
when you sign up for the forces
you get sent to war zones as mandated by the commander in chief ...get over it
what do you think is going to happen sand castle building,,,
here again the parents who dont complain are the true patriots,,because they know the reality of the situation
insanity would mean an aquittal,, he will be going for diminished responsibility, the cps wont swallow insanity (even temporary)
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Less there is a limit to what humans can take, however, unless it is under extreme stress you should be able to notice when you are losing control and take a step back.
Having worked in an inner city school with some real bad students I cannot see how it got to this position.