If there's really global warming...

magick · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:23

If there's really global warming and sea levels are rising, how come seafront/beachfront property in florida still costs millions and UAE are spending billions building aritifical islands that don't seem to acount for rising sea levels?

gillywibble · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:27

It's a conspiracy I tell thee!

knip · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:32

Global warming is a myth

magick · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:33

gillywibble said:
It's a conspiracy I tell thee!

Not joking or implying it's a conspiracy, i'm asking a serious question. Anyone know why?

Tefal · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:34

Why buy houses in tornado alley?

Dolph · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:34

Because climate change, fundamentally, is a politically driven bogeyman for raising taxes that makes claims based on models that are, at best, far from complete, in a dishonest position that does massive disservice to the rest of the scientific community?

SkeeterUK · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:34

Maybe there expensive cos they know they wont be there forever at the beachside so there marked as ultra premium while they're ok atm. At a guess anyway.

Azagoth · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:34

Could the lizards be at it again?

Glaucus · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:34

because it might or might not happen. The computer models they are currently using are well shockingly bad.

coastal see levels have only risen about 2mm, were deep sea levels have actually fallen by a similar amount.

Slam62 · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:35

they need to get us of our addiction to oil

Glaucus · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:36

Slam62 said:
they need to get us of our addiction to oil

It'll happen a few companies have started selling electric and other cars. With ever increasing oil prices the trend will grow until it hits a certain point. Then it will explode.

Tefal · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:38

Slam62 said:
they need to get us of our addiction to oil

when ever i hear this i just keep picturing a guy injecting himself with oil

Viper² · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:40

Dolph said:
Because climate change, fundamentally, is a politically driven bogeyman for raising taxes that makes claims based on models that are, at best, far from complete, in a dishonest position that does massive disservice to the rest of the scientific community?

Exactly my thoughts on it aswell.

SexyGreyFox · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:41

magick said:
If there's really global warming and sea levels are rising, how come seafront/beachfront property in florida still costs millions and UAE are spending billions building aritifical islands that don't seem to acount for rising sea levels?

Now this is the first conspiracy you got right.

Steve2000 · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:42

Dolph said:
Because climate change, fundamentally, is a politically driven bogeyman for raising taxes that makes claims based on models that are, at best, far from complete, in a dishonest position that does massive disservice to the rest of the scientific community?

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Cobertizo · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:44

Dolph said:
Because climate change, fundamentally, is a politically driven bogeyman for raising taxes that makes claims based on models that are, at best, far from complete, in a dishonest position that does massive disservice to the rest of the scientific community?

I'm not convinced that it's got anything to do with the scientific (or not) basis for global warming. More the fact that there's short term cash to be made with these houses / islands etc whether or not it's true, so people are milking it.

Slam62 · 10 Aug 2008 at 20:46

the funny thing is, when we get used to not using oil there will be loads available

semi-pro waster · 10 Aug 2008 at 21:41

Aside from the debatability of whether climate change is real or not and what effects it will have (if any) I'd suspect that many people who are buying property aren't necessarily thinking about the longer term in the sense that the likelihood of the sea level rising enough to be a serious inconvenience in the next 20 years is probably slim so not really worth considering for most in a purchase.

Steve2000 · 10 Aug 2008 at 21:50

Global warming does indeed exist, but whether we like it or not it is a natural process. We cannot do anything to prevent it, or slow it down in any way. It has been scientifically proven many times over that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere generated by humans is about 0.04%.

EsaT · 10 Aug 2008 at 22:35

Steve2000 said:
Global warming does indeed exist, but whether we like it or not it is a natural process. We cannot do anything to prevent it, or slow it down in any way. It has been scientifically proven many times over that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere generated by humans is about 0.04%.

Like we say here in Finland...
Take your head out of that place "to where sun doesn't shine".

There is a close correlation between Antarctic temperature and atmospheric concentrations of CO2. The extension of the Vostok CO2 record shows that the main trends of CO2 are similar for each glacial cycle. Major transitions from the lowest to the highest values are associated with glacial-interglacial transitions. During these transitions, the atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rises from 180 to 280-300 ppmv. The extension of the Vostok CO2 record shows the present-day levels of CO2 are unprecedented during the past 420 kyr. Pre-industrial Holocene levels (~280 ppmv) are found during all interglacials, with the highest values (~300 ppmv) found approximately 323 kyr BP.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm
Mysteriously CO2 concentration started rising same time with industrial revolution and currently we're going around 375ppmv.

Maybe you'll next claim that bullet through head doesn't kill...