If this is true..... (passport control/burkha thread)

ElRazur · 20 Dec 2006 at 01:47

Scuzi said:
As far as security at airports goes I have nothing to call on apart from my experiences when travelling. I don't even work in an airport
However, I have seen veiled women go through passport control and I don't recall them being brought to the side.

Oh my bad, i thought you worked as an air traffic controller....Maybe another member.

Scuzi · 20 Dec 2006 at 01:49

ElRazur said:
Oh my bad, i thought you worked as a air traffic controller....Maybe another member.

I do!

ElRazur · 20 Dec 2006 at 01:51

Scuzi said:
I do!

Right, What is your final answer...Do you work in the airport or not?

Scuzi · 20 Dec 2006 at 01:56

ElRazur said:
Right, What is your final answer...Do you work in the airport or not?

I don't work at an airport, I work at a centre about 3 miles up the road from Heathrow

http://www.nats.co.uk/text/81/london_terminal_control_centre.html

Morlan · 20 Dec 2006 at 02:25

Scuzi said:
I have seen veiled women go through passport control and I don't recall them being brought to the side.

Surely passport control asks them to remove their headwear? Or are you saying thay can waltz through security with a full-on mask??

blighter · 20 Dec 2006 at 02:42

i might dress in a veil and use my mums passport to see if i can get through, that would be soooo easy to sell to the daily mail if it worked

peter_hutson · 20 Dec 2006 at 06:35

Seems to have made its way on to the BBC website now:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/6195581.stm

Though they are only consiering it a "possibility"

AndrewPE28 · 20 Dec 2006 at 07:08

I tell thee now, I couldnt give a rats ass what religious beliefs someone had, if it compromised my familys saftey i'd rip the burkha off her head myself. These are OUR rules OUR laws, respect them or **** off :mad:

Cant believe how much of this religious NONSENSE is getting in the way of sheer common sense. Absolutely ridiculous.

BTW no i'm not religious, have no need to be, or wish to be. I can make my own mind up thanks

daveyj27 · 20 Dec 2006 at 07:24

Morlan said:
Surely passport control asks them to remove their headwear? Or are you saying thay can waltz through security with a full-on mask??

A spokeperson from Heathrow has just been on the radio saying that they only carry out visual facial checks on veiled women on a "random basis".

Utterly sickening.

Mickey_D · 20 Dec 2006 at 07:25

Sure as hell wouldn't have happened while I was working at the TSA. Any facial coverings HAD to be removed. If they weren't allowed to for religious beliefs, they could request a private screening with at least one screener and one supervisor of the same gender as the passenger, where they were required to remove the facial garment. If they refused to remove the facial garment, they were refused entry into the controlled area of the airport.

Them's the rules. Don't like 'em? Don't fly.

Faithless · 20 Dec 2006 at 07:30

Immigration control do not check people who leave the country, only those who enter it. By our own stupid guidelines and policies this guy slipped through in spectacular fashion!

daveyj27 · 20 Dec 2006 at 07:36

reflex said:
Elrazur u have some issues to do with race i swear. How many friends do you post about race etc blah blah blah

It all ends up the same

What are you blabbering about (and why are you embarassed)?
This thread has nothing to do with race, that is until YOU bought it up.
Raz has begun a thread on a topic that is probably going to dominate the news today, and it's a topic that needs attention to resolve it.

alexakasloth · 20 Dec 2006 at 08:03

BUSH said:
I imagine they go to a private room and have it checked by a female passport officer.

True iirc. My friends dad used to work at Gatwick, and took a man into a private room because he had to take off his turban.

fini · 20 Dec 2006 at 08:34

AndrewPE28 said:
I tell thee now, I couldnt give a rats ass what religious beliefs someone had

The burkha is not a religious item it is a cultural one.

AndrewPE28 said:
if it compromised my familys saftey i'd rip the burkha off her head myself.

Would you be wearing your keyboard warrior helmet at the same time or would you consider that hypocritical?

AndrewPE28 said:
These are OUR rules OUR laws, respect them or **** off

I think you'll find that's exactly what he was trying to do...

fini

starscream · 20 Dec 2006 at 08:35

Send him back :mad:

Oh...Wait.....

Mickey_D · 20 Dec 2006 at 09:03

Faithless said:
Immigration control do not check people who leave the country, only those who enter it. By our own stupid guidelines and policies this guy slipped through in spectacular fashion!

Immigration control wouldn't, but airport security would (or should).

leaskovski · 20 Dec 2006 at 09:10

I remember i went through passport checks before wearing a cap. I got a clip round the ear and told to take the thing off. That was only covering my slap. Good job alround.

z0mbi3 · 20 Dec 2006 at 09:15

Mickey_D said:
Immigration control wouldn't, but airport security would (or should).

It's should and they don't.

daveyj27 · 20 Dec 2006 at 09:18

Mickey_D said:
Immigration control wouldn't, but airport security would (or should).

The way I see it there are three places where the traveller could/should be checked:

1. Check-in (airline staff).
2. Security scan (airport security staff).
3. Boarding gate (airline staff).

For a man to be able to walk through that lot while passing as a woman is just stunning to me.

peter_hutson · 20 Dec 2006 at 09:33

daveyj27 said:
The way I see it there are three places where the traveller could/should be checked:

1. Check-in (airline staff).
2. Security scan (airport security staff).
3. Boarding gate (airline staff).

For a man to be able to walk through that lot while passing as a woman is just stunning to me.

Oddly enough I have found the check-in staff to be the most thorough. I guess it's because the airline gets fined it they let illegals travel.