They don't have to, maybe ex student has an awesome idea and starts a company from scratch. Either way, ms get more license money
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Illegal file sharing on the Internet, what should we do?
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They don't have to, maybe ex student has an awesome idea and starts a company from scratch. Either way, ms get more license money
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They don't have to, maybe ex student has an awesome idea and starts a company from scratch. Either way, ms get more license money
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Most companies will use Ms because it's well supported, works out the box and most people know how to use it.
Linux is complicated to set up, doesn't support all hardware and no-one knows how to use it. A Ms power user, wouldn't have the first idea how to do anything in linux apaprt from basic opening and closing applications.
And taht's why people are educated to ms products, as that is what most of them will use in the work place.
As for home use it does not support games.
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Isn't that essentially the same marketing model used by cigarette firms in decades gone by?
Can they even do that? (On a server with no X
)To be fair, I think you somewhat confused my original post with something else. It was meant to agree with what EVH said.
The way I view it is big companies like Microsoft and Sony would not be in the global leading position they are today without piracy. Take Microsoft as the first example, not many members o the public can justify paying the asking price for MS Office and similar products. So they opt for the next best solution which is a copy from a mate or in more recent years a download from the net. Due to it being easily available it allows the spread of the software to be greatly increased allowing many people (who would not have purchased it in the first place) access to it. Due to the fact they would not have purchased it in the first place (due to the cost of it) then this cannot be seen as a "loss" to Microsoft but a gain as it means someone is learning about their products.
This in turn then leads into big business, as lets face it the vast majority of businesses use MS products, be it Windows or Office. Now why do they use these products?... I would like to suggest they use them because they are seen as the common solutions, why?.... because people generally know how to use Windows and Office, why?..... because most people either have a copy or managed to get a version from somewhere. Due to the wide scale piracy and spread of software means it becomes the global standard forcing big business to purchase it and this is where the real money is with licensing etc. So without piracy I don’t believe Microsoft would be in the position they are today.
Sony are also a good example as in the past with consoles such as the PS1 and PS2 which can be modded to play backups. Now I would never have bought a PS1 or PS2 if this wasn’t the case and i know many others in the same boat. So this can be seen as a gain to Sony as I was not going to buy the originals in the first place hence no loss, yet I have purchased two consoles and praised the games to friends who may have then gone and purchased on the back of my recommendations. Funnily enough in the current console market Sony (once the global leader) is now lagging behind for the first time to Nintendo and Microsoft, both of which can be modded. I reckon if a solution was to be released for the PS3 tomorrow then sales would rocket.
At the end of the day big corporate companies want to rule the roost and be the best by owning their market space. To do this they need their products in every home and piracy allows this, the sooner they see that the better.
Just my opinion on it all
This in turn then leads into big business, as lets face it the vast majority of businesses use MS products, be it Windows or Office. Now why do they use these products?... I would like to suggest they use them because they are seen as the common solutions, why?.... because people generally know how to use Windows and Office, why?..... because most people either have a copy or managed to get a version from somewhere. Due to the wide scale piracy and spread of software means it becomes the global standard forcing big business to purchase it and this is where the real money is with licensing etc. So without piracy I don’t believe Microsoft would be in the position they are today.
Sony are also a good example as in the past with consoles such as the PS1 and PS2 which can be modded to play backups. Now I would never have bought a PS1 or PS2 if this wasn’t the case and i know many others in the same boat. So this can be seen as a gain to Sony as I was not going to buy the originals in the first place hence no loss, yet I have purchased two consoles and praised the games to friends who may have then gone and purchased on the back of my recommendations. Funnily enough in the current console market Sony (once the global leader) is now lagging behind for the first time to Nintendo and Microsoft, both of which can be modded. I reckon if a solution was to be released for the PS3 tomorrow then sales would rocket.
At the end of the day big corporate companies want to rule the roost and be the best by owning their market space. To do this they need their products in every home and piracy allows this, the sooner they see that the better.
Just my opinion on it all
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Piracy doesn't hurt anyone personally and you aren't taking property away from anybody so it's not theft in my book.
Big corporations will cry about their profit being affected but it's not like piracy is killing them, they're just greedy for more money which they get anyway from periodically expiring their software and releasing a new version.
Big corporations will cry about their profit being affected but it's not like piracy is killing them, they're just greedy for more money which they get anyway from periodically expiring their software and releasing a new version.
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Current IP laws actually stifle creativity (and freedom of speech\information). It is about controlling the market (particularly distribution), having and protecting a monopoly.
There are several examples in this article:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/27635.html
There are several examples in this article:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/27635.html
The thing of it is that the law agrees. Piracy is not theft. It is copyright infringement but that is an entirely different argument.
For me it would be everything under one roof.
Something like itunes but it has everything you can download ie games, films, music, tv shows, ppv event etc. This service would be subscription, you paid £10 a month for music £10 a month for films £10 for tv shows etc or Something like £40-£45 a month for unlimited everything.
And they had a special box that just hooks up to the tv or pc, that you can just select what you want when you want. All with properly laid out menus.
Something like itunes but it has everything you can download ie games, films, music, tv shows, ppv event etc. This service would be subscription, you paid £10 a month for music £10 a month for films £10 for tv shows etc or Something like £40-£45 a month for unlimited everything.
And they had a special box that just hooks up to the tv or pc, that you can just select what you want when you want. All with properly laid out menus.
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What a retarded statement. You not tried ubuntu? A trained monkey could install that. KDE looks almost identical to XP layout.
Anyway, as for piracy, I don't see a problem with it at all. Until companies realise that DRM actually cripples there paying customers and remove it, piracy will continue & get larger.
Piracy is always gonna be there, and has increased a lot, mainly due at least one computer in each home. Lets face it, everyone loves stuff for free, thats why piracy is so accessable and widespread.
Why don't these Music, film & software companies stop charging the earth. Does Britney Spears need like £100m for miming songs? Thats retarded. Is Windows Vista worth £130 for the ultimate edition? Why cant they charge 10% above cost of production.
Its horrible DRM & horrific cost that turned me to linux, I actually only download TV shows anyway, all of which I pay SKy for and record, but never actual watch it on sky, just watch my downloaded copy on me comp
Yes i am stupid. EDIT: Do these companies actually think if piracy was all gone people would buy all the stuff they downloaded illegally? People download a lot of pirate stuff as its "throw away items" like crap films/TV/Music/Software that you wouldnt buy as its so poor anyway.
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Copyright on digital materials is a joke and entirely unenforceable. The sooner people realise that the better.
Entire conferences full of IT and industry professionals can't solve the issue, a bunch of litigators with about much technical experience as a squirrel don't have a hope in hell - and thats the RIAA/MPAA...
Entire conferences full of IT and industry professionals can't solve the issue, a bunch of litigators with about much technical experience as a squirrel don't have a hope in hell - and thats the RIAA/MPAA...
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I'm hardly an avid pirate, but i have 'dabbled' in the past.
Think of it this way, you could buy a DVD from someone second hand for £3-5, that £3-5 goes straight in their pocket and not to the publisher of the DVD.
If i downloaded a film, the publisher gets no money.
It doesnt justify it, but hey!
Think of it this way, you could buy a DVD from someone second hand for £3-5, that £3-5 goes straight in their pocket and not to the publisher of the DVD.
If i downloaded a film, the publisher gets no money.
It doesnt justify it, but hey!
But they did get paid for the dvd in the first place. You can't stop people selling stuff 2nd hand it would cripple the economy. The two are not comparable and if your paying £3 for a 2nd hand dvd your getting ripped of.
yes and although it's easy to install and looks similar to xp it is still hard to do advanced configuring on. Just because it is different to windows.
Zune if it is ever released in the uk does that for music it's about $15 and you get unlimited music and every month you get to keep 10 tracks permanently dmr free.
The industry is getting there, but very slowly.
Lovefilm and the like are set fee dvd/blueray/games.
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Piracy has been around since the spectrum era......
Surely you didn't have loads of C90 cassettes with multiple games on them did you? Not that I'd admit to it, but didn't you find it very difficult finding the start of each individual game when trying to say, Load "JetPac"?
this is an interesting point.. if someone buys a film or Music CD they pay for the copyright to have it irrelevant of what medium it is on
so if i bought a film on VHS why should i pay for it in full again just to get a copy on DVD... and like wise from DVD to blueray/download
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Piracy is not going away anytime soon.
The only way to prevent it imo is to reduce the price of things and lessen restrictions.
For example, make music downloadable for £5 for a full album in MP3. People want MP3 as a format and the ability to burn it to disks to use on other computers or in the car.
Sell console games at a sensible price. If a brand new 360 game was £20-25 then people would not bother to copy as much. Also release games worldwide at the same time!!! I know no end of people who had ps2/xbox games up to 6 months earlier than in the UK as they downloaded (illegally of course) it in JAP or NTSC.
The music companies selling at £5 per album in mp3 format is much cheaper than they sell CDs for.......but £5 is better than £0 as the potential customer has torrented it.
A good example of gay restirictions are MS's rules on Vista. The whole buy a new motherboard, you need to buy a new key rubbish.......again many people said **** that and torrented it instead.
People will always find an excuse or reason to justify torrenting, but the reasons I have mentioned I am sure would reduce piracy considerably.
The only way to prevent it imo is to reduce the price of things and lessen restrictions.
For example, make music downloadable for £5 for a full album in MP3. People want MP3 as a format and the ability to burn it to disks to use on other computers or in the car.
Sell console games at a sensible price. If a brand new 360 game was £20-25 then people would not bother to copy as much. Also release games worldwide at the same time!!! I know no end of people who had ps2/xbox games up to 6 months earlier than in the UK as they downloaded (illegally of course) it in JAP or NTSC.
The music companies selling at £5 per album in mp3 format is much cheaper than they sell CDs for.......but £5 is better than £0 as the potential customer has torrented it.
A good example of gay restirictions are MS's rules on Vista. The whole buy a new motherboard, you need to buy a new key rubbish.......again many people said **** that and torrented it instead.
People will always find an excuse or reason to justify torrenting, but the reasons I have mentioned I am sure would reduce piracy considerably.
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