Im not sorry, it your fault and your dumb

Emjeadea said:
unfortunately this is what has become of a maturing society we as Britains have got an American style society heading our way and all other countries. May it be 10 or 100 years they will have to go through this maturing process, hopefully the americans can start to show some control as will we with time
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Hang on, are you implying that the American society is more mature than the that of Europe?.
 
cheets64 said:
It was never sent out, officials stopped it, I dont know why they bother try to reduce the sentences, I would say 99% of people in prison dont show any remorse and will continue with crime when they get out.
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I'd that 64% of statistics are made up on the spot (it's actually about 85%) - hint hint, look at country's like Norway with 20% re-offending rates for tips on how to stop it.
 
I can see it from both sides...

The woman should not have to worry about people wanting to break in to her home... the sad fact is, it is something you need to worry about - especially if you live in a high-risk area, so the kid has a stupid, un-articulated point. If it wasn't him specifically, it would likely have been someone else.

I'm am not, by any stretch of the imagination, saying that what he did was right or anything... just that if you live in a high-risk area, you have to stay on top of your own security because there are a lot of poor/desperate people out there.
 
crinkleshoes said:
the sad fact is, it is something you need to worry about - especially if you live in a high-risk area, so the kid has a stupid, un-articulated point. If it wasn't him specifically, it would likely have been someone else.
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People are not likely to be burgled.
 
.Lethal said:
People are not likely to be burgled.
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You are if you live in a high-risk area and leave your house un-secured.

I don't live in a high-risk area and still secure my house :confused:

I don't like using The Sun as a source, but if stats are correct:

BRITAIN was hit by THREE burglaries every two minutes last year as the number of break-ins soared.

There were 745,000 break-ins last year, up 94,000 in 12 months.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...wo-minutes-last-year-as-break-ins-soared.html

A quick google suggests there are approximately 22.5 million households in the UK.

22,500,000 / 750,000 = 1 / 30 chance of your house being burgled in a single year.

In general terms on your average town street, that would suggest to me that ~2-3 houses per street will be broken in to on every street per year. And that's if there's "only" 60-90 houses per street on average.

Now, we all know that doesn't happen everywhere... so there will be hot spots or high-risk areas.

In these areas that 1 in 30 chance of being broken in to will be much higher than that and in other areas it will be much lower.

So... if you live in one of these high-risk areas and don't secure your property - you should hold a portion of the blame for it happening!

Like I said above, it's not something I support or condone, it's a sad fact of the real world...
 
crinkleshoes said:
So... if you live in one of these high-risk areas and don't secure your property - you should hold a portion of the blame for it happening!

Like I said above, it's not something I support or condone, it's a sad fact of the real world...
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No, that's called victim blaming, which is officially a Bad Thing.
 
crinkleshoes said:
You are if you live in a high-risk area and leave your house un-secured.
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The person who was burgled didn't leave their door unlocked or have a welcome sign inviting people to come in. At least from what I remember when I red the OP yesterday.

crinkleshoes said:
I don't like using The Sun as a source, but if stats are correct:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...wo-minutes-last-year-as-break-ins-soared.html

A quick google suggests there are approximately 22.5 million households in the UK.
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Don't take figures from the sun, look at where the source came from. There you will see it came from the Home Office.

The figure of 750k reported by the sun is the number of burglaries across the UK. It doesn't say that it's exclusive to households.
 
Angsty teenager in "rebelling" shocker. Many teenagers will say whatever it takes to stick two fingers up to any kind of authority.

The only "shocking news" here is that the letter was permitted.
 
edscdk said:
buy a (insert random american baseball team name) signed shirt, ball and bat from ebay, make a nice display on the bedroom wall with a few photos..

practice with the bat so you can kill the intruder with one hit....

wait till you can get your free frag...

"well officer it was the 1st item that came to had as you can see I took it from the display in my room, and I did only hit him once"
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That's up to you, personally I'd have said that shows premeditation which puts you in a rather dodgy legal area but that's your choice. Again though the force would have to be reasonable in the circumstances, there will obviously be a certain amount of leeway given due to heightened emotions at the time but still not a surefire way to not get into trouble.

Cleeecooo said:
What about a large maglite?
I keep one by my bed all the time. Mainly because I am a pathetic human beig when it comes to the dark :p
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It's less likely to be a problem as a torch might be relatively normal to keep in a room although if you've also got a bedside light that might raise questions about how pathological your fear of the dark is.
 
SlyReaper said:
No, that's called victim blaming, which is officially a Bad Thing.
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I am not saying it's the victim's fault... what I am saying is a potential victim, in this scenario, can take certain steps to significantly reduce their risk of being in the situation in the first place.

Leaving your window open in a high-risk area is not a good idea!

I don't like the fact that burglaries happen etc... it's just in quite a lot of instances the risk could be reduced and this is a clear case of that.

.Lethal said:
The person who was burgled didn't leave their door unlocked or have a welcome sign inviting people to come in. At least from what I remember when I red the OP yesterday.
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Try taking what I said in the way it was meant rather than skewing it to the extreme, eh?


Don't take figures from the sun, look at where the source came from. There you will see it came from the Home Office.
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I did clearly say I didn't like quoting the sun as a source, it was just easy figures to vaguely demonstrate a point.
The figure of 750k reported by the sun is the number of burglaries across the UK. It doesn't say that it's exclusive to households.
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EXACTLY my point buddy... there will have been multiple break-ins per household, most probably in the higher-risk areas!

It's only a guideline... but what I said still runs true and is a very simple concept that can be summed up in a few irrefutable words:

If you live in an area where you are at a greater risk of being burgled, you should take better care in securing your property.

Leaving your window open is just like leaving the door wide open with a big welcome sign to these people... just because you can't think like them doesn't mean that isn't how they think. Not everyone thinks alike! These people don't care about their effect on the people they're targetting, only themselves. Any opportunity that's left open for them is an invitation.
 
crinkleshoes said:
Leaving your window open is just like leaving the door wide open with a big welcome sign to these people... just because you can't think like them doesn't mean that isn't how they think. Not everyone thinks alike! These people don't care about their effect on the people they're targetting, only themselves. Any opportunity that's left open for them is an invitation.
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Its also down to luck, I left the front door wide open a few weeks back and only released when I got up, we had someone follow my mum home from a shop she use to work in, last one out so she had the keys and they broke into the house took the keys and managed to get in the store and nick some stuff.
 
cheets64 said:
Its also down to luck, I left the front door wide open a few weeks back and only released when I got up, we had someone follow my mum home from a shop she use to work in, last one out so she had the keys and they broke into the house took the keys and managed to get in the store and nick some stuff.
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Yup - down to luck too.

All I'm saying is if you live in a high-risk area, whatever that risk may be, you should make more effort in your personal security.
 
semi-pro waster said:
That's up to you, personally I'd have said that shows premeditation which puts you in a rather dodgy legal area but that's your choice. Again though the force would have to be reasonable in the circumstances, there will obviously be a certain amount of leeway given due to heightened emotions at the time but still not a surefire way to not get into trouble.



It's less likely to be a problem as a torch might be relatively normal to keep in a room although if you've also got a bedside light that might raise questions about how pathological your fear of the dark is.
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Who's business is it where I keep my possessions in my house?
 
crinkleshoes said:
Try taking what I said in the way it was meant rather than skewing it to the extreme, eh?
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That we have a good chance of being burgled based on sensationalist headlines by a newspaper? :eek::D Sorry ;)

I know what you're trying to say.

crinkleshoes said:
All I'm saying is if you live in a high-risk area, whatever that risk may be, you should make more effort in your personal security.
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Agreed.
 
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