IMPORTANT: Huge OEM Windows Licence issue for consumers!

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In fact an even more ludicrous term is that you MUST affix the COA to the PC case otherwise you are NOT properly licensed to use Windows.

I affixed the COAs to the paper CD envelopes and in that other thread I was told that in doing so I wasn't legally licensed to use my purchased copies of OEM Windows!
 
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str said:
In fact an even more ludicrous term is that you MUST affix the COA to the PC case otherwise you are NOT properly licensed to use Windows.!
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i agree with that... but the other thing about the preinstallation kit i don't agree. preinstallation kit is ONLY for if your selling the system..
 
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If you don't agree with Microsoft's License Terms you are not licensed anymore.

You don't have the option to disagree and continue to use your purchased copy of OEM Windows. It's either agree and use it or do not agree and do not use it.
 
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STR IT'S U I DON'T AGREE WITH.... YOUR READING IT WRONG OR U DON'T UNDERSTAND IT FULLY...

your giving information that only apples if u distributing the oem license
 
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Actually it is crystal clear in the System Builder License about the neccessity to distribute the software license:

4. SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTION.
4.1 We grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute an individual software license only with a fully assembled computer system.
4.2 Each individual software license must be distributed pursuant to the end user license agreement (“EULA”) that accompanies the individual software license. Under the terms of the EULA you are the licensor.
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Note that it says each individual software license MUST be distributed persuant to the end user license agreement.
 
Remember you aren't granted the right to install and use your copy of the OEM version of Windows until you agree to the OEM Windows License.

You as the System Builder are granted the right to distribute the license but until you do so and it ends up in the End User's hands you do not have a license to use it.

Seriously, Gareth, it's all very clear in the License Terms and since you previously impressed upon me that I must agree by the License Terms if I want to use my OEM copy of Windows so I cannot understand you now saying otherwise?:confused:
 
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str. think or say or do ,whatever u want. i won't reply to this thread.

oh and by the i have retail license...
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I am only looking to ensure I know exactly what licensed to use means with regards to the OEM version of Windows I purchased.

You are opposing me at every turn which is strange really as you were one of the biggest advocator of properly licensed OEM Windows and you continually said I needed properly licensed copies of OEM Windows otherwise I was using it unlawfully. :confused:
 
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No, distribute means something very specific and is defined in the SB Licence.

Distribute means leaving control of the SB, and as this isn't happening there is no pre installation requirement.

/End thread.

Burnsy
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i accept i get meanings mixed up. but i know for sure preinstallation kit wasn't a requirement if your not distribute it..
 
If it doesn't leave the control of the System Builder then the license to use cannot be granted? :)

Here is the System Builder License "Limited License" Term granted to the System Builder:

3. LIMITED LICENSE.
3.1 This is a limited license to distribute the individual software licenses or hardware units contained inside this package. “Individual software license” means any individual software license that comes inside this package, including software media, documentation, certifi cates of authenticity, end user license agreements and security devices. “Hardware unit” means any hardware that comes in this package, including any hardware-related software and user documentation.
3.2 You may only deliver this package and hardware units with other non-Microsoft computer hardware components, within the territory described at http://microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/territory. You acknowledge and agree that you will not export this package to locations outside of this territory.
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The System Builder is granted a limited license to distribute and there are no provisions allowing the System Builder the right to install and use the copy of OEM Windows. He must preinstall it and then it becomes ready for distribution to the End User.

The Windows End User License Agreement gives the End User the right to install and use the OEM copy of Windows.
 
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Burnsy, seriously mate, if we are to be properly licensed then surely we should learn exactly what properly licensed means and ensure we are properly licensed if it's at all possible with the current license terms?

The License Terms for both the System Builder and the OEM copy of Windows are actually crystal clear with regards to licensing.

I took on board what you said about being properly licensed and all I've said in this thread is regarding those License Terms so how can you say end thread like that?
 
If you are a system builder registered with MS, then yes, all the above would apply. If you build yourself a system and buy an OEM disc to install, you are not doing anything wrong. What is so hard to understand here?
 
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If you are a system builder registered with MS, then yes, all the above would apply. If you build yourself a system and buy an OEM disc to install, you are not doing anything wrong. What is so hard to understand here?
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Nope, the SB licence applies to anyone who assigns a OEM licence.

Burnsy
 
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If you are a system builder registered with MS, then yes, all the above would apply. If you build yourself a system and buy an OEM disc to install, you are not doing anything wrong. What is so hard to understand here?
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Microsoft say we are System Builders simply by opening the OEM Windows packaging:

1. AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTION AND ACCEPTANCE. Distribution of individual software licenses or hardware units contained in this Microsoft® System Builder Pack (“package”) is not authorized unless you accept this license. You accept this license when you open this package. By accepting this license, you agree that you are a system builder. If you do not open this package, you may deliver it to another system builder.
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I took on board what you said about being properly licensed and all I've said in this thread is regarding those License Terms so how can you say end thread like that?
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Because that's what I was told by the System Builder Licensing team when I asked them this very question.

Burnsy
 
I think what this means is that the MS licence was written by lawyers (Who convienently aren't working for the system builder team) :p
Another set of lawyers can come up with a radically different opinion on anything, whatever happens.

I gave up even bothering trying to understand the idiotic provisions with this a long time ago. I have one licence which has been installed on one motherboard; Anything else is really besides the point, or Linux for that matter :D

-Leezer-
 
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