IMPORTANT: Members Market access

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How about allowing an influx of good community members to support a thriving marketplace like it used to be?
Anyone who reaches the required criteria will be able to access the MM.

Just like it's always been. All we've done is remove those who aren't good community members. To be part of the community, you need to participate in it.

By removing those who don't participate in the community, we've done exactly what you've asked for. You want good community members to be able to access the MM, we've removed those who aren't good community members.
 
I was acceptable when I posted to get to the 250 required back then.
So you had an absolute minimum of 250 posts in January 2012.
Now you have around 310 posts. You've made 60-70 posts in eleven years?

Requirements change. Back in 2012, we could quite easily have just removed everyone who didn't meet the new criteria but we left it open. Now, over ten years later, we've closed that loophole. I think that over ten years is a perfectly decent time span to give people a chance to actually be active and participate.
 
Why the hell should I?
Because the forum rules say you should.

If you were to poll the people here, I expect you will get a democratic answer for what the post count should be for MM access.That is an example of how big decisions should be made here.
This is not a democracy. It never has been, it never will be. The administrators make the decisions.

Under the old stewardship, you'd probably have been banned already for the way you've posted in this thread. Fortuntately for all of us, we've moved on since those days.

How is it a bloody loophole if don't comment as much as your 300k spam posting. I DO NOT post much unless I have something to actually contribute to a topic and I will not be bullied into posting for the sake of upping my post count just to say other peoples egos'.
OC are fine taking my cash 1.5k + last year but hey
It's a loophole in that people who had access kept access when the forum rules changed.

The MM rules say:

"Access to the MM is granted as a privilege to forum members who have contributed to the community. Once you have access, we expect you to continue participating in the other forums outside of MM. If it is noticed that you only post in the MM then this may be raised with you. If you no longer participate in the wider community outside of MM then we reserve the right to remove your access."

It looks like the last time you posted outside of a buying/selling thread or the shop news threads was 2020.
I hadn't checked @Sturm's stats. You've saved me the chore.

So make the post count required to access the MM decay over time instead of having to retrospectively punish people?
As already explained in this thread, we've been working on this for over a year, gradually removing access from various members. This is the seventh and final stage of the cleanup.
 
I’m baffled. Are people genuinely throwing a strop to the point they are wanting their accounts closed just because they’d have to make a few posts to regain access to a single specific area of the forums.
An area, which has always been a reward for ‘active forum participation’
It looks like it, yes.
 
it's rather weird, imo. you chaps can obviously correct me here but i do believe i am correct in what i said about the mm having always been 'promoted' as being for active forum participation. surely anyone with any common sense realises that active participation means posting and not just lurking?
Bang on.
 
Oops some people mid MM transaction and have lost access :cry:

This was posted on the 10th July with a targeted forum notice to everyone it was going to affect.
If you have fewer than 1000 posts and have access to MM, please ensure that any ongoing deals are completed by 18:00 on the 1st August 2023 which is when access will be removed.
 
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We have over fifty sub forums on open view. Just three or four of them don't count. That leaves a lot of others which do.
 
Thats the message I got - I wonder if i'm also a gonner :cry: - was good knowing you gents!
Not sure how you saw it, I've just checked the user criteria and it was set to show to anyone who was logged in, had access to MM and had a post count of no more than 1000 posts :confused:

Pretty sure you're safe ;)
 
Will previous MM feedback remain once the requirements are met?
Yes, the only thing that's changed is that the box on your account that grants access to MM has been unticked. Once you meet the requirements, you'll gain access automatically as per normal.
 
I can't contribute anything outside the general LIFE sections due to having no knowledge about hardcore computer tech.
Well looking at the Life sections, you have Motors, Home and Garden, La Cuisine, Sports Arena, Music, Box Office, TV and books. Mobile Phones and tablets.

None of those are especially technical.

There's also an Audio Visual section with areas on home cinema/hi fi and photography/video.

Then there's the Games section, PC games, tabletop, console and retro.

So that's at least ten forums that are nothing to do with 'hardcore computer tech', not including the ones above that have their own sub-forums.

No excuses.... :p
 
I've been really ****** off a few times when I'm looking for a certain item such as a GPU for a build to only find the same person constantly buy up GPUs. Then I find when I search their username on eBay to find them selling a boat load of GPUs all the time and making money which is against the rules.
Not just at you but to anyone who sees this behaviour.

We take this very seriously, using the MM to buy and sell for a profit is grounds for instant removal and it’s happened to quite a few members. We can’t police this by ourselves so if anybody sees this happen, please tell us and it’ll get dealt with quickly.

And please, in response to us asking for reports, don’t anyone use the pathetic ‘snitches get stitches’ (or equivalent) line.
 
Not sure how the general membership would know about bad deals and what we do to help resolve them unless they've been involved in them, it's all speculation on behalf of the members.

I will talk about one that went bad though. Some items with a considerable value of several hundred pounds were posted and never arrived. The seller claimed that he had the shipping receipts but they'd been 'washed by mistake' and were unreadable.

(we're dealing with another one at the moment where the postage receipt 'has been lost').

Nothing ever turned up, the buyer ended up taking the seller to small claims court and won.

At the same time, the seller had two or three other deals going through with various issues of something turning up broken. This was finally refunded. In a way, it was lucky that he had these deals going on because one of the buyers hadn't obtained all his details (name, address, phone number etc) before going ahead with the deal. This is quite stupid, anyone dealing with anyone in MM should always, always get full name, address and phone number(s) before sending any money. We specify this in the guidelines and there's a notice reminding people to do it but still some don't. But I'm digressing.

This was a member who joined at least fifteen years ago and had many thousands of posts but had barely posted outside of MM for about five years. This person clearly didn't care about the community at all as they seemed to have no qualms about ripping someone off for a decent amount of money.

Needless to say, they won't be back. Please don't speculate in here as to who it was.
 
Of course it’s not just on the behaviour of one person. As I’ve said already, this is the final stage of a process that’s been ongoing for a couple of years.
 
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